Cambodian government accuses Thailand of invading another Khmer temple
04 August 2008
By A.L.G. and L.D.
Cambodge Soir Hebdo
Translated from French by Luc Sâr
Click here to read the original article in French
Bangkok denies any incursion on Cambodian territories in the province of Oddar Meanchey.
70 Thai soldiers allegedly entered the site of Ta Moan Thom temple, in the province of Oddar Meanchey, Sim Sokha, the Cambodian deputy border defense chief, said.
“Thai troops indicated that they would withdraw only when the border conflict in Preah Vihear will be resolved,” Sim Sokha told the Associated Press.
On its side, Thailand denied any new incursion inside Cambodian territories. Bangkok said that troop movements in the Surin district were not unusual.
Khieu Kanharith, government spokesman, recognized the presence of Thai soldiers on the territory, while trying to calm down the situation.
“Thailand wants to profit from Preah Vihear to resolve the border problems at the same time,” Khieu Kanharith said while adding: “The Joint Border Committee in charge of Thailand and Cambodia must be allowed to do its work.”
“Regarding this border, we are within our rights,” he added before explaining that the priority of the government is currently concentrating of the formation of a new government.
The Ta Moan Thom temple dated from the 13th century and is located about 470 kilometers to the northwest of Phnom Penh. When reached overt the phone, Ho Bunthy, the permanent deputy commander for the Ta Moan Thom site, indicated that about “60 Thai soldiers took position 70 meters in front of the temple. They are clearly on our national territory.”
Furthermore, soldiers from both countries are facing each others in front of another temple, Ta Krabei, located 16 km from Ta Moan Thom. Thai troops were deployed following movement of Cambodian troops.
04 August 2008
By A.L.G. and L.D.
Cambodge Soir Hebdo
Translated from French by Luc Sâr
Click here to read the original article in French
Bangkok denies any incursion on Cambodian territories in the province of Oddar Meanchey.
70 Thai soldiers allegedly entered the site of Ta Moan Thom temple, in the province of Oddar Meanchey, Sim Sokha, the Cambodian deputy border defense chief, said.
“Thai troops indicated that they would withdraw only when the border conflict in Preah Vihear will be resolved,” Sim Sokha told the Associated Press.
On its side, Thailand denied any new incursion inside Cambodian territories. Bangkok said that troop movements in the Surin district were not unusual.
Khieu Kanharith, government spokesman, recognized the presence of Thai soldiers on the territory, while trying to calm down the situation.
“Thailand wants to profit from Preah Vihear to resolve the border problems at the same time,” Khieu Kanharith said while adding: “The Joint Border Committee in charge of Thailand and Cambodia must be allowed to do its work.”
“Regarding this border, we are within our rights,” he added before explaining that the priority of the government is currently concentrating of the formation of a new government.
The Ta Moan Thom temple dated from the 13th century and is located about 470 kilometers to the northwest of Phnom Penh. When reached overt the phone, Ho Bunthy, the permanent deputy commander for the Ta Moan Thom site, indicated that about “60 Thai soldiers took position 70 meters in front of the temple. They are clearly on our national territory.”
Furthermore, soldiers from both countries are facing each others in front of another temple, Ta Krabei, located 16 km from Ta Moan Thom. Thai troops were deployed following movement of Cambodian troops.
41 comments:
According to foreigner news media, foreign political observers, and even some foreign diplomats claim that AH HUN SEN is a very shrewd politician because he had managed to stay in power for 23 years in Cambodia and by far the longest ruling Prime Minister in Cambodia!
What most people didn't know about Hun Sen shrewdness is that Cambodian people let him win for the sake of peace and stability! But even peace and stability has it limitation and Cambodia can't afford to have peace and stability which allow the Thai to step all over Cambodian sovereignty!
Hun Sen is tempting with fate if he doesn't handle the Siam aggression on Cambodia seriously!
Please no more talking about peaceful friendship between Siam and Cambodian army sharing cigarette or joking together! No more talking about the Thai-Cambodian friendship will outlast the border conflict and no more talking about the conflict can never reach arm confrontation!
While the Thai leaders continue to double cross Cambodian leadership and Cambodia has much to lose than to fight for what belong to Cambodia!
I swear to God if I were Cambodian official I will not let the Thai double cross me and I will kill the Thai mother fucker!
SIAM is showing their willing to still again. Their ancestor stilling spirit is coming back.
Ladi. & Gen. SIAM introduce to you another precious temple Ta Krabie come and visit oh by the way Hanio/Singapore/HK/Korean airline only.
I am just feeling so bored and tired of hearing more and more encroachment from the thug, thieves Siam. As a Cambodian, I get to realize that the RCG hasn't done enough or not CAPABLE ENOUGH TO COPE WITH THE SITUATION!!!!!!!! NO GOOD PREPATION, NO TACTICS OR STRATEGY TO DEAL WITH THIS APPARENTLY LONG-LASTED GAME WITH SIAM, AND LIKE IN WAR THAT THE ENERMY KNOWS YOU, TRAP YOU AND CAN HUNT YOU DOWN ANYTIME; BUT RCG LEADERS APPEAR TO HAVE NO SKILLS OR DARE NOT SACRIFICE OWN INTEREST-SURRENDER THEIR BODY AND SOUL TO THE ENERMY FOR THE SAKE OF POWER AND CLAN'S INTEREST. THEY ARE DEEMED TO COMMITTING ACTS OF TREASON FOR SURE!!!!!
Yah
Long Live Thai Thai. Long Live Thai Army. We try our best to claim as much land/Temple as we can while stupid Khmer Government careless about their land and poeple, they only takecare about their money, family and power. We are prove to have weak country nearby and they will be became our dog in one day.
I found that Cambodian people want to see quick action from gov't to deal on border issue since Siam agressively encroached our land. I would like to appeal to gov't to take action over this issue again seriously and realease all documents to public to be awar.
We Khun Thais understand very well the spirit of your leaders who need only money and Power within kampuchea, he is strong man in Campuchea but weak with khun thais and Khun viet.....
we claim Preah viharn, ta man and others untill we return all to thais belongings and help the strong man in Power for half more century.... we agin we return Siam Rap to our territory too...
We Khun Thais learned a lot about the tactics, bad tricks kampuchean administration applied with campuchean people to take over lands and other properties.. so we used this trick/tacticsd to gain from Campuchia too... and we will win sdurely and Campuchea Army chief and leader do not dare to fight with thais,,,,, please be sure sure we guarantee.. remember ...
Wichai rungrat
now we really know that HUN SEN is only tough on his ordinary citizens. He is loosing his popularity now.
He should be strong on this foreign's intruding to our lands.
He is very incapable.
Shoulda let Sam Raingsy take over!!
I think you siem should calm down including your leaders. Cambodia is just avoiding tension to escalate. Don't have any wrong perception.
It's not that we don't answer to your crazy behavior that we are scared of you.
So cool down donkeys.
Cambodia we'll make you crawl in due time, don't worry about that.
Come on, my Cambodian blood. Stay strong to protest for our territory. You see, when lots of impression from us, the Government at least do something to prove they also wants our temples, our land back. If you keep quiet, i'm afraid Ta Moan Thom, Ta Moan Toch, Ta Krabei, and maybe some others which will claim by the mother fucker THAI, will lost.
Come on, come on,... Stay strong, stand still to proff our Government that we Khmer love Khmer and our value properties. Yesterday, I was surprised and sad to hear one of my colleages said "I don't care anymore about the dispute on Temples, land,.. with Thai. Let's the Govn't do this work". If you don't stay strong to protest we will lose ours to Mother Fucker Siam like we lost Koh Tral to Father Fucker VN. International just wait to see how strong you are in demanding your own properties.
Has the Siamese stopped stealing from Khmer (Khom)? Come on, enough already -- you've already stolen our Khmer scripts, lands, artifacts, and more. Stopped it!
"It is true that the Prasat (what Thai people call Khmer-style temples) is located just about 100 meters from the border in the Thai soil. The Fine Arts Department discovered and registered it as one of our Thai ancient items in 1935, or about 73 years ago," Kriengkrai was quoted by the report as saying.
Hmmmm, did ah siam ever built or loose this temple or something? So, they came and try to claim everything is thailand like everything else including thai boxing, thai pepper, thai ginger, thai ice cream and thai eggplant, etc... Just so that they can be anti Khmer becuase they don't want to admit their culture and custom are stolen from Khmer, they try to claim everything as thai.
They should try to claim the poop out of my butt as thai poop also. What a bunch arrogant people and land of the thieves they called ah kapik siam.
All temple belong to Thai, your government never care about those, your only care about money. Like Angkor wat, you sold it to VN why not sell it to Thai. You gave a lot of land to VN why not to Thai.
So, we are the nation who love all temple then you, so we need to claim and take-care of it. If we don't claim it will be destroy in one day or your government will sell it all to VN.
We learnt a lot from VN, they claim your land everyday, they will eat all of your land like Kampuchea Krom, you will apply for VISA while you crosing your Moniving bridge in one day. Long live Thai!
ALL the bastard Siamese thief never stop their temptation of stealling it's neighbouring properties and land. Their bloodline still continue to flow on.
The GOD's who protecting Cambodian's HOLY LAND will wipe them out once and for all.A few days ago one of their Clan has been summoned by the undertaker at Preah Vihear (Death without reason) thousand and hundred thousand more will received the same fate if they continue to remain in cambodian Holy Land.
I urge that all the neighbouring with THIS bastard SIAM must be carefull and stand up to protect your own sovereignty. All these bastard thieves has no boundary if they like they just come in and steal no respect for any LAWs or international communities.
Don't take their word for value because all these bastard never keep their words even they have signed agreement with you. ONE day they will turn to yours! Burma, Lao, Muslim in the south and Cambodia must joint forces and fight this bastard SIAM once and for all eliminate these criminal from the earth.
Sdach khmer nam knear doeur leng,
pel seam yok dei kloun?
Hun sen be a man, do not take our people land, go fight again a krapik
The siem is trying to amass reason (Preah Vihear, Ta Moan, Ta Krobei)to invalidate the 1907 Treaty.
Their main goal is by invalidating this map they can claim the offshore oil.
No can do my friend.
Come on siem we know your dirty little secret.
After we Thais claimed our ownership over the Prah Viharn and Ta Moan Thom, there were hundreds of Prasat which Thailand will claim that those Prasats are the Thailand ancestral Prasats.
The Kumpuchean doesn't have any of those prasats, the kampuchean come from vietnamese high lander and mixed with Meo and Hmong culture.
Thailand will stay firm for the principles, by protecting of our ancestral and the will use of forces of any means.
Ratthani,
Thailand.
Stupid Khmers....
Thailand has registered Tamoan as Thai National Heritage since 73 years ago AND IT IS IN THAI SOIL.
Ratthani you a proud and sincere ignorant.
Wichai looking forward to see how Khom solve the Problem...,surrender please .. is better.. If so we will let you be a Primninster forever and offer you millions Dollars Under Thai+Viet Colony.
Wichai Rungrat
10:58 AM
You too are proud and sincere ignorant.
Wichai Rungrat
You are the third proud and ignorant.
If Cambodian do not cut Thai throats ,Thai will cut our throat,so what is the choice,go to fuck ThaiLand take Bang Kok back, That land belong to Cambodia also.
Viet Nam are smiling this time the Viet win big?????
Do you really thing that China will let you have Cambodia while we are busy with the siem???
What a sad Vietminh you are!!!
Don't forget one China policy Vietminh.
Ah Siam has planned all too-well and determined to play in this game in the long term!!!! Why during election and in the election year?????
Ah Siam have knowns all too well that CPP want to make its popularity nationwide in Cambodia that's why Ah Siam has been willing to play in the PVs's listed bid for the World Heritage. First Ah Siam with Ah Samak planned to claim only the surrounding area 4.6km, yet it looked stupit coz Ah Thai especailly Ah Thief, thug king of Siam have planned long to claim even the temple!!!!!!!!
-And coz Ah Samak (known as Ah Thaksin's proxy) not favored by Ah Siam King and military has long favored Ah Siam King, so Ah PAD exploits this incident that Ah Samak endorsed our proposal to list PVs as world heritage. As Samak claimed before the PVs has been inscribed as world heritage that Cambodia will legitimately claim the temple, BUT NOT THE SURROUNDING LANDS!!!!!
-And to follow through with Ah Siam king and Ah Siam military, Ah Samak now reveals his secret, cunning plan and ambition with the military deployment to claim the 4.6km CAMBODIA'S LAND SO AS NOT TO BEING LOOKED TRAITOR AND BE OUSTED BY AH KING SIAM!!!!!!
-And Samak has played it right coz RCG with HUN Xen looked to win only the ELECTION, BUT NEGLECT TO SEE THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE COUNTRY!!!!
THE QUESTION IS: WHO HAS BEEN TRICKED AND TRAPPED??? HUN XEN'S AND CLIQUES, ABSOLUTELY!!!! YOU WIN THE TITLE AND YOU ARE CAPABLE TO WIN BY ANY MEANS ON YOUR PEOPLE, YET YOU LOOK STUPID, BRAINLESS WITH SHORT-SIGHTED VISIONS OF LEADERSHIP SKILL; ALONG WITH PROTECTION OF YOUR POWER AND CLAN'S WELL-BEING.
-THIS BUNCH OF CURRENT LEADERS WILL BECOME THE BIG TRAITORS IN CAMBODIA HISTORY IN THIS MODERN TIME!!!!!!
UNAM
Doggy siem-thai, u all will b dissolved..
this is enough !!! please don't risk our both country . Stop fightging over that it's not worth it .
shut the fuck up devil siems thieves your siems king suck my pussy,that's why siems ppls r ignorant....
thai and cambodia shared so many things .. just look around.. the poeple are also the same , the culture and the way of life... the only different is the language which is so similar too. the Thai poeple have choosen to speak thai. that was their choice. Frankly, this make it another country. They just got more advanced just becuaze we went to WAR. we are here today becuase the result of WAR. WAR changes us. LET both country respect each others , and live at own wills. Why Fight we can all unite. We are brother and sister!!!
Dear My Strong man & Madam,
Please appeal to Neak Ta Klaing Moeung Army.. to fight against Siams..
No need to use Margic Spell....
" ..Margic Spell means READY TO SURRENDER "
Excellency Achar Bandit Oknha Knoy
12:11 PM
Tell your Siem dog, can they live peacefully with its neighbors?
Dear My Strong man & Madam,
Please appeal to Neak Ta Klaing Moeung Army.. to fight against Siams..
No need to use Margic Spell....
Margic Spell means READY TO SURRENDER "
Excellency Achar Bandit Oknha Knmoy
Who would want to live with those Bastard SIAM thieves? we trying to live in peace and respect it's neighbouring sovereignty.
HOW ABOUT THE BASTARD THIEVES? would they have any dignity? Ofcourse not because they are just a common thieves!
I said we should appeal to UN security council so that the whole world know who the mother fucker thieves? the longer we keep quiet the more we will lost our temples and land because these bastard SAY one thing and do another thing.
THESE bastard pretend to negotiate with US but on the other hand LET their Army Thieves to invading our land and occupied our temple then declair their discovery. SO if we discovered other people property in their house can we claim that it our????? OFCOURSE NOT but the Bloody Bastard Siam did that with SHAMELESS !!!!!!!!!!!
AH SIAM's KING USED TO BE AH THIEF ! that is why their bloodline still flow!
It’s quite ignominious to have seen my government flexes its military muscles ONLY against the most pregnable people – their own people – when evicting or crushing the protesters, yet so afraid and scared when dealing with foreign aggression.
My questions of the day: “Why are you so mean to your VERY own people, and yet so tenuous and pregnable and willing to succumb to foreign pressure?” And “what kind of leadership are planning to teach to your followers, children, grandchildren, and other generations, when you’re unable to utilize the same power you have used against your own people?”
Suffice to say, yes – when dealing with foreign aggression, which has egregiously violated our sovereignty and territorial integrity, I see the powerlessness of the Hun Sen’s administration. Whereas when dealing with forcible land evictions and peaceful protests, I see all kinds of powers that have been used against the most pregnable people.
Now, every Khmer citizens knows and understands the weakness of our leaders, who we thought very impregnable and tenacious leaders, when, in fact, these leaders are pregnable and tenuous coward when dealing with someone or something that is more powerful than them. Now, we understand!
Khmer farmer
12:47, 2:18
Please, We must understand our defeats during Cambodia dark's age. This is how we should be proud to be khmer. To accept our defeats. this is how a man would become a stronger, better as a person. of cuz with hopes. but without fualty hopes.
Thai people have endure for centuries for their existance over our land. It must be really difficult for them to cope with the facts. we must understand each other. Khmer culture is a riddled WAR in their nature. and this is the result of our defeats.
To accept defeats is the new beginning of victory.
we cannot take all the land back, it's impossible. because the people have become the land its self. It's the land of people not of particular race. Thai people have earn their victory and become the land.
WE Khmer should be proud that once we was the majestic Empire.
WAR has consequences, and it's the prize we must endure to our soul. This is what we are. This is our country. This is our pride. we must treasure and live on as what we are.... even it'll take 100 years, 1000 years.. We must carry on our wills to be a better nation.
one day we'll all can live together as one.
Fucking 8:21PM just ask your mother fucker ah Thai Siam to stay put from now on! Mother fucker thief son of Kapik
Thai leaders sometimes are also fighting for power, just out side image BUT never FORGET THAI NATIONAL INTERESTS we get benefits from this figting....... you see fighting and occupy Prah Viharn/Tamuan//to... siamrap...later Nom Pen and Co-Colonised Kampuchea with Viet( Siamo-Viet Co-Colonisation)
Wicha Rungrat
Krungthep Mohanokron
After Cam-election every dispute will be OK...."
50%-50% Co-management of Prah viharn...Tamun...siamrap....
to nom pen....
we thais can do this, sure!!!
"Your leaders will be quiet//" you have no rights to protest...." ok
Khap Khun Kha
Chatchai/Thailand
SWOT Analyse
win-thai
Stength:
we are stronger because most of military support is from individual's private property-means we are rich no need government budget.
Siams use govt budget to supply army.
Human resources- a lot of Generals-Phd. Excellencies- Co-ministers/Primeministers/ a lot of Kings/Samdachs..Oknhas
Budget: unlimited- collecting from people/monks/poors
Military strength- qualified/ mostly ghost soldiers (invisible)-many Generals
Margic Spell/Black margic: very effective- one thai army died may be due AIDS
Financial resources: land/govt. , any stateowned properties buildings/ heritage natural resources can be sold quickly to buy weapons without any parliamentary Approval ...
Power- handed only one strong man/ every thing can be decided fast...
Political Parties: no need to oppose any govermental decision
Infrastructure-very poor- makes rhais army difficult to move into Cam-territory
Economy: Low- Thais have nothing to eat when invade into Cam....
Weakness:N/A
Oppoertuny- unknown
Treat: uncountable/unknown
Conclusdion- Cam wins Siams unconditionally
Excellency Dr. Bandit Oknha Achar Knoy- Phd. in multi-disciplinary Subjects: Poli/Multi-econom. Laws /From Chea Chamreourn Unviersity PPenh/Campuchia
we have many evidence such as Phd. Theses regarding the Temple easy to prove UN to win prah viharn case... Khom do not have much... they have only Phd. Useless Phd without theses....
campuchia has only Advisors ... excellenciesPhd.& high posts officers without any respetive technical knowledges...
we will submit other temples as world heritages soon....samrap
bateysray...
wichai
Prah viharn, Prasat Tamuan, Cham sagnam and Koh Kong Halek etc.. belong to thailand because more percent of thais peoplehave have chance to visit the sites, and all modern infrastructure/raod are well connected from Thailand and mostly consdtructed by Thailand.
Kham do nothing with those prasats...letf them alone for long time.
Chatchai
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