Thursday, October 01, 2009

Sam Rainsy: Ho Vann must get back his parliamentary immunity automatically

30 September 2009
Source: Khmer Stapana newspaper
Reported in English by Khmerization

Click here to read the aritcle in Khmer

Legal experts and opposition politicians said that the Phnom Penh Court should, through Ministry of Justice, send a request to the National Assembly to reinstate Mr. Ho Vann's parliamentary immunity after it dropped all defamation charges against him.

Mr. Sam Rainsy, leader of the eponymous Sam Rainsy Party (SRP), said by a telephone interview that the SRP will not write a letter to the National Assembly to request for it to give back Mr. Ho Vann's immunity by saying that by laws Mr. Ho Vann should automatically get his immunity back after the court dropped all charges against him.

Mr. Ho Vann was sued by 22 military officers after he criticised their qualifications awarded by the Vietnamese Military Institute. On 22nd June, the National Assembly stripped him off his parliamentary immunity and he fled to the United States.

A week ago, the court dropped all charges against him after international pressures and after U.S Secretary of Defence Robert Gates raised the issue with Cambodian Defence Minister Tea Banh during their meeting in Washington DC a week ago.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

What is the big deal about this immunity thing when it can taken away anytime anyway?

Kuoy Pichet

Anonymous said...

i agree with you only if your statement inferred from the CPP's point of view.

Kit PiChoy

Anonymous said...

Kouy Picet,
Without immunity you are not Member of Paliament. Paliament is law maker. In comparison, without immunity you lost your seat in the Congress.

What so important is if you lost that seat you lost ability to serve your people. The immunity is not easy to strip, it's our government-just don't respect the law. This why the immunity for the right people is very important. We can not affort to give up the seat to the wrong people.

There's only 123 seats in the National Assembly.

Anonymous said...

Cambodia is a lawlessness country.
if there is law but no law is above yuonxen or slave-ahnuk and kingaroogay son. They walk in circle. yuonxen play the mean kids, the gay king play nice, the slave father just sit watch and laugh. jail is nothing but their play ground. one put in jail then one going to pardon..when one stripped off then one going to pardon. Those people never work, some of them just go to the place to sleep b/c it is free; free toilet, free foods and free AC.
They have no shame...they have nothing to do except fighting each other. Most of them never go to school and now they are all judges and lawmakers. such a no brainer!!

Anonymous said...

That is very stupid interpretation of the constitution that Sam Rainsy had. Can't he read article 80? Members of the National Assembly can't be prosecuted because of the protection of immunity, which can be lifted by 2/3. Prosecution can be suspended only with 3/4 vote by the National Assembly, which means that 3/4 reinstates the immunity. How can he intepretes that Ho Vann guy gets it back automatically? What an idiot!!

Anonymous said...

Cambodia Town
Long Beach, Ca

Ho Vann need 2/3 of parliamentarian vote to get his immunity restitute, or approve by ministry of justice, but first he should write an apologize letter to our top 22 Generals before we think about his case.

New Phally

Anonymous said...

Kot Pichet , your name tells everything .. no brainer .

Anonymous said...

New Phally , you are acting stupid or just being stupid . If Ho Van has found innocent he should get back his immunity automaticly . That's the law of the Country called ( Constitution )

Anonymous said...

2:18 PM
Go read the Contitution again and stop being such an idiot . If the paliarment is not guilty of anything , that person will have his or her immunity back automaticly .
The Court only needs to send the latter to National Assembly about Mr Ho Vann innosence .
Truck Driver

Anonymous said...

2:18 pM. you are an idiot , not Sam Rainsy. let me tell you this because you got confused. If the parliament is guilty of doing anything he or she has to pay according to what he or she has done and then National Assemble will have to vote to reinstate his or her parliamentary . But if he or she has found innocent , he or she will have his or her immunity back automaticly without doing anything .
You have learned something today 2:18 PM

Anonymous said...

Wowww , there are a bunch of law Professors here from CPP ( Communist People's Pary ) . I hope you CPP supporters didn't have you PhD from Hanoi University.
By the way , I agree with 4:03 PM 100 % .

Anonymous said...

The court dropped all charges against Ho Vann, therefore he is not not guilty of anything, so he will get his immunity back automatically like Sam Rainsy said.

Anonymous said...

May all khmer don't have to deal with the regime no longer soon.

Anonymous said...

i thought i'm slow and dumb. but new phally is more dumb and dumber!

Anonymous said...

Don't blame New Phally, he never been to school. He suck Hun Sen dick to get promotion, this is the norm for the CPP. New Phally, if you think so high of CPP, why don't you go back and continue to suck you master dick...you sob.

Anonymous said...

10:23PM,
You are right through the hole. In the 80's he lived at least 15 years right behind PCH College Campus, but stepped in that college nor did he go to Watt Irap. I guess he might have studied well enough in Cambodia, and he is not a Buddhist believer.

Anonymous said...

correction=but he never stepped in...

Anonymous said...

Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime had committed:

Tortures
Brutality
Executions
Massacres
Mass Murder
Genocide
Atrocities
Crimes Against Humanity
Starvations
Slavery
Force Labour
Overwork to Death
Human Abuses
Persecution
Unlawful Detention


Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime had committed:

Attempted Murders
Attempted Murder on Chea Vichea
Attempted Assassinations
Attempted Assassination on Sam Rainsy
Assassinations
Assassinated Journalists
Assassinated Political Opponents
Assassinated Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Executions
Executed members of FUNCINPEC Party
Murders
Murdered Chea Vichea
Murdered Ros Sovannareth
Murdered Hy Vuthy
Murdered Khim Sambo
Murdered Khim Sambo's son 
Murdered members of Sam Rainsy Party.
Murdered activists of Sam Rainsy Party
Murdered Innocent Men
Murdered Innocent Women
Murdered Innocent Children
Killed Innocent Khmer Peoples.
Extrajudicial Execution
Grenade Attack
Terrorism
Drive by Shooting
Brutalities
Police Brutality Against Monks
Police Brutality Against Evictees
Tortures
Intimidations
Death Threats
Threatening
Human Abductions
Human Abuses
Human Rights Abuses
Human Trafficking
Drugs Trafficking
Under Age Child Sex
Corruptions
Bribery
Illegal Arrest
Illegal Mass Evictions
Illegal Land Grabbing
Illegal Firearms
Illegal Logging
Illegal Deforestation
Illegally use of remote detonation on Sokha Helicopter, while Hok Lundy and other military officials were on board.
Illegally Sold State Properties
Illegally Removed Parliamentary Immunity of Parliament Members
Plunder National Resources
Acid Attacks
Turn Cambodia into a Lawless Country.
Oppression
Injustice
Steal Votes
Bring Foreigners from Veitnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
Use Dead people's names to vote for Cambodian People's Party.
Disqualified potential Sam Rainsy Party's voters. 
Abuse the Court as a tools for CPP to send political opponents and journalists to jail.
Abuse of Power
Abuse the Laws
Abuse the National Election Committee
Abuse the National Assembly
Violate the Laws
Violate the Constitution
Violate the Paris Accords
Impunity
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Death in custody.

Under the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime, no criminals that has been committed crimes against journalists, political opponents, leaders of the Free Trade Union, innocent men, women and children have ever been brought to justice.

Anonymous said...

To AH New Phally

Only stupid peoples like you think that the CPP win election by 2/3.  When you cheated, you do not win.  Do you understand?  If you don't, what you can do is, go and ask your children.  They would tell you right or wrong.

Intimidations
Threatening
Steal Votes
Bring Foreigners from Veitnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
Use Dead people's names to vote for Cambodian People's Party.
Disqualified potential Sam Rainsy Party's voters.

International Observers declared that the Cambodian election doesn't meet international standard.

AH New Phally, when are you going to stop acting stupid?

You are making the CPP look bad.

Why the CPP's supporters are so stupid?

Can someone answer this question?

Perhaps, AH New Phally can answer this question.

Anonymous said...

3:51 and 4:01.

Don't act like you know anything about the constitution. Idiot like you don't even come with up interpretation or explanation. What is your reasoning by the way beside repeating an idiotic Sam Rainsy?

Read below, does it even say anything close to the word ÄUTOMATICALLY?

Article 80:

The deputies shall enjoy parliamentary immunity.

No member of the National Assembly shall be prosecuted, arrested, seized, or detained because of his/her opinions or expressions during the exercise of his/her duties.

The prosecution, arrest, seizing, or detention of any member of the National Assembly shall be made only with the approval of the National Assembly, or of the Standing Committee of the National Assembly between sessions, except in case of flagrant delicto. In that case, the competent ministry shall report immediately to the National Assembly or to the Standing Committee for decision.

The decision made by the Standing Committee of the National Assembly shall be submitted to the National Assembly at its next session for approval by the two-third majority vote of the entire National Assembly membership.

In the cases stated above, the detention or prosecution of any deputy shall be suspended if the National Assembly casts its vote to suspend by a three-quarter majority vote of the entire National Assembly membership.

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No point to deal with stupid people like you barking without any basis.

Anonymous said...

It is all because Khmer people are too busy fighting with each other. It is us who allowed others to take advantage of our country and at the same time, we Khmer people always listened to the outsiders about how to improve the development of our country. As we all know that others would not want us to be better off than them in anyway, it is in our human nature, so what do we get? we were trained to destroy our own homeland and people instead and in doing so is for their intention to take away our land in the end!...so wake Khmer people, you must think deep... right now, all we need to do is, try to focus on migrants intakes to increase in population grow, to build a new nation of Khmer so that our heritage is still be there or we will have nothing left. So, all officials must come together at once and speak about how to increase population grow as well as creating a system that everyone is equally important, that is respect and protect! Aust

Anonymous said...

nothing is automatic, you have to work for it, ok!