Newsmaker Theary Seng being introduced by National Press Club committee member Peter Hickman (Washington, DC, 5 March 2010)The Khmer Rouge Tribunal:
Transforming Cambodian “survivors/subjects” into informed, empowered “citizens”
Transforming Cambodian “survivors/subjects” into informed, empowered “citizens”
Theary C. Seng
The National Press Club, Washington, DC, 5March 2010
The National Press Club, Washington, DC, 5March 2010
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Introduction
I would like to begin first of all by expressing my gratitude to Mr. Peter Hickman for this wonderful invitation to be here at the National Press Club; it’s a double pleasure to be in my former home of Washington, D.C.
I come from a country mired in disproportions, contradictions and human rights abuses: when a boy steals a piece of bread, he is sent to jail; when a man kills 2 million of his countrymen, he is invited to Paris for a peace conference.
I come from a country where to be an orphan is to be common; where post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) pervades the population, currently at 14 million people.
Thirty-five years ago this April, Cambodia plunged into the abyss of human suffering when the Cambodian communists or “Khmer Rouge” took over and within a matter of 3 and ½ years took the lives of 1/3 of the country’s population or almost 2 million people, including my parents and other relatives. No Cambodian was untouched.
Then as now, we, Cambodians, yearn for peace. Peace that is more than just the absence of war. We want peace with the presence of justice. We want peace to subside the internal turmoil and purge the demons from within.
Some thirty years on, there is now the Khmer Rouge Tribunal (or, formally known as the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia) to start us on this journey of ‘peace with justice’.
Overview of KRT
- Hammered out of 10 YEARS of political compromise b/w Cambodia and UN; deeply flawed from beginning; the result of lowest common demoninator.
- Came into operation in early 2006
- Hybrid court of Cambodian and UN officials “in the Courts of Cambodia”
- TEMPORAL JURISDICTION: crimes committed between 17 April 1975 – 7 Jan. 1979
- PERSONAL JURISDICTION: (i) “those most responsible”, and (ii) “senior KR leaders”
- KRT as ‘court of law’ offers LEGAL ACCOUNTABILITY.
- KRT as court of law, legal mechanism – greatly LIMITED.
- KRT is necessary as ‘court of law’ but not sufficient; moreover, deficient.
- No formal truth and reconciliation commission to complement/supplement.
- If we only view KRT as a legal mechanism, a court of law – it should close shop and go home.
HOWEVER…
- KRT is BOTH a court of law AND a court of public opinion.
- Powerful catalyst for SOCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY – the constructive engagement of citizens.
- KRT is the “spectacular event” to break the silence; to transition us out of “period of communicative silence” to building a “culture of memory”
Transforming us from “subjects/survivors” into empowered citizens with rights and responsibilities
- Discovering our voice having been voiceless for so long
- Dialogue replacing monologue – “national dialogue” – away from society of directives
- Changing mentality of always awaiting for “permission to speak”
- A vivid illustration to jumpstart conversations long overdue:
- More difficult for political manipulation
- Rare, unique window of opportunity to multiply impact of constructive engagement by shaping this broken legal mechanism:
- The most special impact for me is the standardizing of trauma language and conversations in Cambodian society. What was taboo 3 years ago are now talked about with less shame and reluctance. Three years ago, my staff accused me of thinking every Cambodian “crazy” by broaching these topics of trauma. Now, they are counseling others using the Trauma
- Handbook and posters taken from this Trauma Handbook.
Legacy for Cambodians:
- The worst legacy for Cambodia is a mentality of irreversible cynicism. This is a possibility if we do not engage this ECCC process to help shape it.
- Uncertain/questionable whether ECCC will have positive impact on the national court – if any, it has created a greater appetite of the Cambodian judges once they return to the national courts.
- Positive Legacies: found in the “court of public opinion” as mentioned above; additional the corpus of materials for learning, e.g. the Virtual Tribunal, etc.
Implications for International Justice:
- VICTIMS PARTICIPATION:
- Do away with CO-POSITIONS, e.g. co-prosecutors, co-investigating judges, co-lawyers, etc. The problem was highlighted by the very dramatic public disagreement, contrary positions of Duch’s co-lawyers – French lawyer Francois Roux and Cambodian lawyer Kar Savuth at the Closing Arguments.
- NATIONAL RECONCILIATION and OUTREACH FOR VICTIMS/SURVIVORS will need to be reassessed and be better prepared with READY AVAILABLE FUNDING from the get-go.
Conclusion
In sum, only hindsight and a bit of distance will allow us to really assess the legacy / implications of this ECCC for Cambodia and for international law. However, we know enough of where we need to shape or re-direct the process in order to bring about POSITIVE legacies/impacts from this very flawed construct, that is the ECCC. One area we can impact the greatest change and bring about positive legacies is in the “court of public opinion”, where the people are the “judges” and are not inhibited by rules of procedure, evidentiary rules or the archaic, arcane legal language, preserved for the understanding of a few.
All to say, let’s have another conversation 5 years from now, when the ECCC has closed shop.
Legacy is still being written: an onus for us to shape this process into a positive legacy rather than one of further, ingrained cynicism. Time and resources are not on our side in light of current political environment.
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Theary C. Seng
Author, Daughter of the Killing Fields
www.thearyseng.com
Center for Justice & Reconciliation (CJR): www.cjr-cambodia.org
Affiliated Network for Social Accountability in East Asia & Pacific (ANSA-EAP): www.ansa-eap.net
Human Rights Resource Center for ASEAN (HRRCA): www.hrrca.org
I come from a country mired in disproportions, contradictions and human rights abuses: when a boy steals a piece of bread, he is sent to jail; when a man kills 2 million of his countrymen, he is invited to Paris for a peace conference.
I come from a country where to be an orphan is to be common; where post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) pervades the population, currently at 14 million people.
Thirty-five years ago this April, Cambodia plunged into the abyss of human suffering when the Cambodian communists or “Khmer Rouge” took over and within a matter of 3 and ½ years took the lives of 1/3 of the country’s population or almost 2 million people, including my parents and other relatives. No Cambodian was untouched.
Then as now, we, Cambodians, yearn for peace. Peace that is more than just the absence of war. We want peace with the presence of justice. We want peace to subside the internal turmoil and purge the demons from within.
Some thirty years on, there is now the Khmer Rouge Tribunal (or, formally known as the Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia) to start us on this journey of ‘peace with justice’.
Overview of KRT
- Hammered out of 10 YEARS of political compromise b/w Cambodia and UN; deeply flawed from beginning; the result of lowest common demoninator.
- Came into operation in early 2006
- Hybrid court of Cambodian and UN officials “in the Courts of Cambodia”
- Cambodian civil law procedural rules
- Co-prosecutors
- Co-Investigating Judges
- Co-Lawyers
- Complex “super-majority” to always include a foreign judge
- Incomprehensible to a Cambodian teacher earning US$50/mo, even though very cheap by international standard, in comparison to other mixed/hybrid courts, e.g. Special Court for Sierre Leone, ICTY, ICTR etc.
- TEMPORAL JURISDICTION: crimes committed between 17 April 1975 – 7 Jan. 1979
- PERSONAL JURISDICTION: (i) “those most responsible”, and (ii) “senior KR leaders”
- Case File 001: Kaing Guek Eav (“DUCH”), director of Tuol Sleng Detention Center
o Has confessed, may be the sole scapegoat
o Closing argument highlights problem with hybrid “co-“ nature
- Case File 002: Senior KR Leaders – Nuon Chea (Brother No. 2, chief of Security apparatus), Khieu Samphan (KR Head of State), Ieng Sary (KR Minister of Foreign Affairs), Ieng Thirith (KR Minister of Social Affairs) – OCTOGENARIAN, AILING – time is of the essence!
- International Co-Prosecutor has forwarded an additional 5 more names—Case File 003, Case File 004— but blocked by the Prime Minister Hun Sen: "If the court wants to charge more former senior Khmer Rouge cadres, [it] must show the reasons to Prime Minister Hun Sen,” referring to himself in the 3rd person.
- KRT as ‘court of law’ offers LEGAL ACCOUNTABILITY.
- Symbolic justice
o Restores moral order, a collective repudiation
o Proximate, not perfect justice
o Selective justice
- “justice must be seen to be done”
- Chip at impunity, acts as a deterrence (puts potential perpetrators on notice)
- KRT as court of law, legal mechanism – greatly LIMITED.
- ANY court of law—even in developed US, Germany, France—is limited because based solely on EVIDENCE
o Availability
o Clever lawyering in use of evidence
o Fair trial rights: evidential rules, procedural rules, decorum
o Arcane, archaic language/legalese understandable to an elite few
- SPECIFIC challenges to KRT
o Evidence is 30 years old:KRT as Court of Public Opinion
+ Documentary: Compromised or lost
+ Witnesses: dead or fearful to come forward or blurry memory
+ Corruption / kickbacks charges: still no anti-corruption mechanism in place
+ Political interference – CPP former KR cadres, China and geopolitical considerations
+ Lack of judicial independence/competence to try mass crimes
+ Budgetary constraints/annual fundraising: recently UN approved US$85 M
+ 3 official languages: Khmer, French, English
+ Delays (natural, ill-will) – Jacques Verges’ “rupture defense”
+ Magnitude of crimes, scope of crime scene strewn across all the fields of Cambodia: - 200 detention centers, thousands of “killing fields”, every Cambodian a victim
+ Experimentation of victims as CIVIL PARTY
+ Hybrid nature posing coordination challenges – UN and Cambodian officials theoretically should be speaking with one voice, but different motives/political constraints/will
- KRT is necessary as ‘court of law’ but not sufficient; moreover, deficient.
- No formal truth and reconciliation commission to complement/supplement.
- If we only view KRT as a legal mechanism, a court of law – it should close shop and go home.
HOWEVER…
- KRT is BOTH a court of law AND a court of public opinion.
- Powerful catalyst for SOCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY – the constructive engagement of citizens.
- KRT is the “spectacular event” to break the silence; to transition us out of “period of communicative silence” to building a “culture of memory”
Transforming us from “subjects/survivors” into empowered citizens with rights and responsibilities
- Discovering our voice having been voiceless for so long
- Dialogue replacing monologue – “national dialogue” – away from society of directives
- Changing mentality of always awaiting for “permission to speak”
- A vivid illustration to jumpstart conversations long overdue:
- History
- Accountability (personal, collective, legal, moral, social)
- Peace, truth, reconciliation, healing, trauma
- Demystifying the legal system for Cambodians
- PROCESS…JOURNEY of 1,000 steps… now at step 47
- More difficult for political manipulation
- Rare, unique window of opportunity to multiply impact of constructive engagement by shaping this broken legal mechanism:
- Donor funding
- “stickiness factor”- Expanding genre of KR films: Enemies of the People; Facing Genocide etc.
- The most special impact for me is the standardizing of trauma language and conversations in Cambodian society. What was taboo 3 years ago are now talked about with less shame and reluctance. Three years ago, my staff accused me of thinking every Cambodian “crazy” by broaching these topics of trauma. Now, they are counseling others using the Trauma
- Handbook and posters taken from this Trauma Handbook.
Legacy for Cambodians:
- The worst legacy for Cambodia is a mentality of irreversible cynicism. This is a possibility if we do not engage this ECCC process to help shape it.
- Uncertain/questionable whether ECCC will have positive impact on the national court – if any, it has created a greater appetite of the Cambodian judges once they return to the national courts.
- Positive Legacies: found in the “court of public opinion” as mentioned above; additional the corpus of materials for learning, e.g. the Virtual Tribunal, etc.
Implications for International Justice:
- VICTIMS PARTICIPATION:
- ECCC is the first mixed/international court to make victims a “party” – civil party – to the case in the criminal proceeding.
- This February 2010, the judges met in a plenary to greatly reduced this right of civil parties.
- Do away with CO-POSITIONS, e.g. co-prosecutors, co-investigating judges, co-lawyers, etc. The problem was highlighted by the very dramatic public disagreement, contrary positions of Duch’s co-lawyers – French lawyer Francois Roux and Cambodian lawyer Kar Savuth at the Closing Arguments.
- NATIONAL RECONCILIATION and OUTREACH FOR VICTIMS/SURVIVORS will need to be reassessed and be better prepared with READY AVAILABLE FUNDING from the get-go.
Conclusion
In sum, only hindsight and a bit of distance will allow us to really assess the legacy / implications of this ECCC for Cambodia and for international law. However, we know enough of where we need to shape or re-direct the process in order to bring about POSITIVE legacies/impacts from this very flawed construct, that is the ECCC. One area we can impact the greatest change and bring about positive legacies is in the “court of public opinion”, where the people are the “judges” and are not inhibited by rules of procedure, evidentiary rules or the archaic, arcane legal language, preserved for the understanding of a few.
All to say, let’s have another conversation 5 years from now, when the ECCC has closed shop.
Legacy is still being written: an onus for us to shape this process into a positive legacy rather than one of further, ingrained cynicism. Time and resources are not on our side in light of current political environment.
____________________
Theary C. Seng
Author, Daughter of the Killing Fields
www.thearyseng.com
Center for Justice & Reconciliation (CJR): www.cjr-cambodia.org
Affiliated Network for Social Accountability in East Asia & Pacific (ANSA-EAP): www.ansa-eap.net
Human Rights Resource Center for ASEAN (HRRCA): www.hrrca.org
7 comments:
This Khmer Rouge Triunal thing is a waiste of time and funds. It has been waisted millions of dollar and continues to waiste hundreds more million dollars.
ECCC are pathetic! They afraid of Hun Sen and his high crimal officials. If the international constition unable to over-ruled Cambodia, Hun Sen's law; then it's useless. Pathetic!
Theary Seng, Ms. smart ass should have use her time where directly benefits Cambodia and Cambodians. Otherwise she just a bullshit phylosopher.
I have read some of her works and articles it sounds very very good and impressive. But so far..... that's all there is to it. Just sounds good! Hope she would implement her phylosophies for the good cause of great rolemodel as she always brag. Words alone never enough!
Great work Theary!
Irrefutable Proof ICTY Is Corrupt Court/Irrefutable Proof the Hague Court Cannot Legitimately Prosecute Karadzic Case
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This legal technicality indicates the Hague must dismiss charges against Dr Karadzic and others awaiting trials in the Hague jail; like it or not.
Unfortunately for the Signatures Of the Rome Statute United Nations member states instituting the ICC & ICTY housed at the Hague, insofar as the, Radovan Karadzic, as with the other Hague cases awaiting trial there, I personally witnessed these United Nations member states openly speaking about trading judicial appointments and verdicts for financial funding when I attended the 2001 ICC Preparatory Meetings at the UN in Manhattan making the iCTY and ICC morally incapable trying Radovan Karazdic and others.
I witnessed with my own eyes and ears when attending the 2001 Preparatory Meetings to establish an newly emergent International Criminal Court, the exact caliber of criminal corruption running so very deeply at the Hague, that it was a perfectly viable topic of legitimate conversation in those meetings I attended to debate trading verdicts AND judicial appointments, for monetary funding.
Jilly wrote:*The rep from Spain became distraught and when her country’s proposal was not taken to well by the chair of the meeting , then Spain argued in a particularly loud and noticably strongly vocal manner, “Spain (my country) strongly believes if we contribute most financial support to the Hague’s highest court, that ought to give us and other countries feeding it financially MORE direct power over its decisions.”
((((((((((((((((((((((((( ((((((((((((((((((((((((( Instead of censoring the country representative from Spain for even bringing up this unjust, illegal and unfair judicial idea of bribery for international judicial verdicts and judicial appointments, all country representatives present in the meeting that day all treated the Spain proposition as a ”totally legitimate topic” discussed and debated it between each other for some time. I was quite shocked!
The idea was "let's discuss it." "It's a great topic to discuss."
Some countries agreed with Spain’s propositions while others did not. The point here is, bribery for judicial verdicts and judicial appointments was treated as a totally legitimate topic instead of an illegitimate toic which it is in the meeting that I attended in 2001 that day to establish the ground work for a newly emergent international criminal court.))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
In particular., since "Spain" was so overtly unafraid in bringing up this topic of trading financial funding the ICC for influence over its future judicial appointments and verdicts in front of every other UN member state present that day at the UN, "Spain" must have already known by previous experience the topic of bribery was "socially acceptable" for conversation that day. They must have previously spoke about bribing the ICTY and
ICC before in meetings; this is my take an international sociological honor student. SPAIN's diplomatic gesture of international justice insofar as, Serbia, in all of this is, disgusting morally!
SPAIN HAS TAUGHT THE WORLD THE TRUE DEFINITION OF AN
"INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT."
I represented the state interests' of the Former Yugoslavia, in Darko Trifunovic’s absence in those meetings and I am proud to undertake this effort on Serbia’s behalf.
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i don't think it's a waste of time and money. i think it will educate the world, educate cambodia, and helps to heal, to understand, to forgive, to change people's way of thinking, etc, etc... it is very useful in academically speaking. glad to see everyone is allowed to think differently. god bless cambodia.
I haven't been following the Khmer Rouge tribunal, because it's joke and a sham. They put these mickey mouse perpretrators like the Tuol Sleng prison chief. Why is he even the face of the trial? Put Norodom Sihanouk on trial. There are many founders of the Khmer Rouge still living worldwide. The Thiounn Brothers who helped finance the Khmer Rouge are still alive and living France. Shame on my Khmer brethrens who applaud this trial as a victory for the justice of Cambodia. Jey-yo Sathearanak Rath Khmer. Long live the Khmer Republic.
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