30 July 2010Theary C. Seng
I am humbled and inspired by the article "Killing Fields Verdict Fuels Christian's Forgiveness" and Silas's Christian charity and forgiveness, a faith I share. Forgiveness (a burden lifted) is the very heart of healing. And we, individually, need to extend this forgiveness (genuine and at our own pace) in order to be healed.
Here briefly, I'd like to make a distinction between vertical justice and horizontal justice.
Vertical justice is the imperfect (proximate, selective) work of the State toward the perpetrator; but ultimately, it is the perfect work of God toward the perpetrator. In the case of Duch, the State (i.e., the ECCC) handed out the imperfect verdict of 35 years, reduced to 19 years after the legitimate reductions for cooperation and time served in the illegal prior detention at the military compound. I am and others are saying that this is "too imperfect". But we have the assurance of perfect justice to be meted out by God (which may be a surprise to those who do not share the Christian faith of "amazing grace" if Duch is truly a Christian!).
Horizontal justice is the personal relationship between the victim and the perpetrator; here, it allows room for forgiveness. But the individual's forgiveness is independent and separate from the State's or God's role in meting out vertical justice.
Thus, I share in the personal forgiveness of personal horizontal justice between victim and perpetrator; forgiveness does more good for the forgiver than the forgiven. Many times, the perpetrator could care less. But this forgiveness does not take away the role of the State to exact its vertical justice (imperfect as it may) and ultimately, God's perfect justice.
In our deep disappointment, we are saying that the State (i.e., ECCC) has disproportionately responded to the gravity of the crimes committed by only exacting 19 years for crimes against humanity. This in no way take away from the need of individuals at one moment in time to forgive when s/he is genuinely able and ready.
- Theary Seng, Phnom Penh, 30 July 2010. www.thearyseng.com
Here briefly, I'd like to make a distinction between vertical justice and horizontal justice.
Vertical justice is the imperfect (proximate, selective) work of the State toward the perpetrator; but ultimately, it is the perfect work of God toward the perpetrator. In the case of Duch, the State (i.e., the ECCC) handed out the imperfect verdict of 35 years, reduced to 19 years after the legitimate reductions for cooperation and time served in the illegal prior detention at the military compound. I am and others are saying that this is "too imperfect". But we have the assurance of perfect justice to be meted out by God (which may be a surprise to those who do not share the Christian faith of "amazing grace" if Duch is truly a Christian!).
Horizontal justice is the personal relationship between the victim and the perpetrator; here, it allows room for forgiveness. But the individual's forgiveness is independent and separate from the State's or God's role in meting out vertical justice.
Thus, I share in the personal forgiveness of personal horizontal justice between victim and perpetrator; forgiveness does more good for the forgiver than the forgiven. Many times, the perpetrator could care less. But this forgiveness does not take away the role of the State to exact its vertical justice (imperfect as it may) and ultimately, God's perfect justice.
In our deep disappointment, we are saying that the State (i.e., ECCC) has disproportionately responded to the gravity of the crimes committed by only exacting 19 years for crimes against humanity. This in no way take away from the need of individuals at one moment in time to forgive when s/he is genuinely able and ready.
- Theary Seng, Phnom Penh, 30 July 2010. www.thearyseng.com
44 comments:
There is no justice for innocents in this world.
another well written piece from Theary Seng. khmers in my community still agonise over this 35 year old catastrophe, and most will never recover from the trauma. while khmer Christians (and i am one) can receive healing from the Holy Spirit, my Buddhist mother simply cannot find peace in her soul despite doing buddhist things, like reciting pali mantra, giving alms etc.. she struggles with the idea of forgiving our former tormentors. and yet as a christian i know this is the only way towards restoration. So i keep praying that Jesus will show Himself to my mom (as he has done for me) and heal her. i would be grateful if other khmer christians who read this will also ask Jesus to help my mom. thanking you kindly.
ឌុច សម្លាប់មនុស្សជាង១២២៧៣ នាក់។ តុលាការ កាត់ទោសឲ្យគាត់ជាប់គុក១២៧៧៥ថ្ងៃ។ គឺគាត់ សម្លាប់មនុស្សម្នាក់ ជាប់គុក ១ថ្ងៃ។
Theary please keep doing what you're doing. Many Khmer in Cambodia and abroad appreciate what you're doing.
Again, thank you for caring.
In the pass, there were no state laws, or may exist and not strong enough to be fair and just, we needed then religion laws.
Now, in 2010, we have country laws, international laws, we could forget religion laws.
I love it! In a country where Buddhism is the majority, it take a Christian to make sense of it. Is that what you called it? I am sorry, I survived the KR regime, but I am not about to switch my religion.
oh damn god... every time, you talk about god.. but when millions of ppl were being killed, the damn god is blind and deaf.. i don't know if he's up in the sky or down at the earth crust, but i know for sure he's damn stupid if he ever existed. if he allowed that atrocity to happen, let men give the judgement.. for either forgiveness, revenge or justice, men is the man to do the job; not the headless god.
and to compare forgiveness btw the stupid religions? Don't fight each other, fight me and fight your own soul and judgement.
it's really insane..
Theary - don't side Christine God on your side, you just insult more than 90% of Khmer population who are following Buddhism - What you are saying is like you are telling that they are follow the wrong God (which Buddha is not God). As a sub-intellectual as you are - do you how many people that were, are, and will be kill in the name of God (Jesus, Islam)? Just look at the Ben Ladan - the Islam against the Christine - which he call Jiha? Khmer Roughe was fighting for equal and for classless society (which by killing the intellectual - to make everybody equally poor - which you know the story. I don't have to tell you that)....Don't insult Khmer of what they believe... I could just say Christine God is like Hun Sen...Just following him and you will be save from your sin? No wonder you committe a lot of sin and know that your God will forgive you!...
if you're truely believe in Democracy...you have to allow other people to have freedom of speech, freedom of religion...
By the way...one of your interview...you were stand in the Buddhist temple and wearing black (In the West - color black mean you're suffering for the dead) - did that mean you were suffering for the Khmer dead, or just another Kodack time for you...
Anonymous said...Did Khmer Rouge believe in any kinds of religions ? Did Communist countries believe in religions ? They did not.Before Khmer Rouge took over Cambodia there were three main religions in Cambodia : Buddhism,Islam,and Christianity.All these religions are good,but some believers are bad.During Khmer Rouge era,they did not believe any religions. 95/100 Khmer people were Buddhists including Mr. Duch.Buddha told us not to kill,not to steal,not to lie,and so on.But the believers did not mind. Help yourself first,God will help you later.Do somethings good first, you will reap them later.Good deeds get good deeds,evil deeds get evil seeds.
I dont know judge put him 35 years in jail by his age or put him 35 years by the law ?
Duch 68 years .19 years in jail it's ok...How about someone else kill samething DUCH and he is 22 years 19 years sentence in jail what happen??? Mean judge is blind.
Hello Theary, Now you are talking like a True Christian :) Good, forgiveness is good for all the victims. I lose many close relative during the KR regime, some may even died in S21, but I forgive Dutch. At least he admitted his crime and beg for forgiveness.
she is a true snake oil salesperson. amen!
Whereas other religion is exclusive, based on race or ethnic identity, Christianity is the most embracing of all races and classes, identifies with the poor and most vulnerable, gives second and third and fourth and fifth (...) chances to imperfect people and has at the heart, LOVE.
Well said 9:59PM. Only Jesus died for humanity. Only God and Jesus Christ teach forgiveness and able to forgive any sinner who ask for his grace and mercy. We otherwise should learn to forgive those that wrong us.
The worst crime ever committed in history is the crucifixion of the Son of God.
The ultimate victory ever won is Jesus rising from the dead.
The greatest news ever given is for all of us who are not perfect, including the foul-mouthed among us, is forgiveness...for all the nasty things we do to each other and ultimately to the Creator God which we harbor deep down in our hearts... which leads to peace through Jesus.
6:38PM,
Until 2010 that Cambodia just has a country laws? Why it takes Cambodia so long to have laws? From a generation to another, from a regime to another, Cambodia has its own laws. In the past, I mean from 1970 back to the long past Cambodia had its constitutional laws which were created in accordance with monarchist rules. From 1970, after the coup d'etat, some amendments were made due to the fact that Prince Sihanouk decoded not to return to Cambodia but to join the Khmer Rouge instead. In the KR regime, perhaps all amendments were abolished due to the fact that the regime needed to purify its new society that was no longer in need of Buddhism.
"Forgiveness", the word also exists in Buddhism. The Buddha was a compassionate being, he forgave all the sinful and savage men who had tried to harm him. It's a religious law, but "forgiveness" shouldn't be applied in constituinal laws. A man must pay the price of his own crimes, because such crimes as Duch committed were premeditated ones.
bullshit!!!!!!
There is neither forgiveness neither repantence in Buddhism, hun.
Buddhism and the LAWS of the real world are the same. If you violated the laws, you got the punishment; nobody could forgive you.
vertical + horizontal = the Cross ?
above bullshit is for those pretentious, phony cambodian christians above.
There is no difference between religion and human laws, if you're guilty by human laws you will punished in human prison and if you're guilty by religion laws you will be punished by going to hell.
Then you must not beleive because like that you would be punished only by human.
theary, whether verticle or horizontal it is going to end up in the same place for you.
Who is the closed-minded one? Cambodians cannot freely choose to be a Christian?
For all of you foul-mouthed, what is your religion? Buddhism? Islam? Is vulgarity and personal attacks your religion's mantra?
people, learn to argue with ideas.
many readers may have misunderstood Theary about her opinion in this matter. I totally agree with her. Forgiveness exists in both religions. forgiveness is good for the human well being, meaning mind and body, but we should let the law runs its couse. In Buddhist region, Duch committed sins. no matter what religion he switched to, he will have to pay for it in his next life as a living thing. He can't undo it or be taken away by anyone or god. to personally revenge on to him would be committing sin by the individual. So, let support the UN laws, but don't commit crime. I also personally believe that many Khmer Rouge who committed many killing and came to the United States never admitted their wrong doing to anyone, unlike Duch, they still believe what they were doing were right.
10:44 pm, let me stuff a couple bars of soap in your mouth. so you talk with less misguided belief and patronizing.
I am a Cambodian American who lives in America. This Khmer Rouge Trial is nothing but a joke and a slap on the wrist. The many lives that have been taken under Khmer Rouge is not and will not be taken lightly, because we are talking about close to millions lives that were perished under this evil regime. To say that Duch was the only man that is responsible for this atrocity...I say FUCK YOU United Nation and FUCK YOU those who were involved with Khmer Rouge and presently working for Khmer Government. I wish I would never be borned again as Khmer, because this FUCKING RACE, although might not be all of them, but some of them, are nothing but a FUCKING, BLOOD SUCKING PARACITES. THIS FUCKING KHMER RACE, IF YOU LOOK INTO THE KHMER HISTORY WITHIN ITS CHRONOLOGY KEPT HIDDEN IN FRANCE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THEY HAVE KILLED EACH OTHER, EVEN THEIR OWN BROTHERS, SISTERS AND FATHER. THIS FUCKING COUNTRY KNOWN AS KHMER HAS NEVER BEEN IN PEACE SINCE THE THIRD CENTURY. THERE ARE MORE TO BE SAID, BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AS FROM THIS KHMER ROUGE TRIAL. THEY DONT KNOW ANYTHING, THEY HAVE NO PLAN OF BRINGING ANYONE WHO WERE THE REAL POLICY MAKERS DURING THE KHMER ROUGH TO TRIAL. THE CHINESE, THE UNITED STATES, THE THAI,THE RUSSIA, THE VIETNAMESE, AND ABOVE ALL THE FUCKING ILITERATE LEADERS OF KAMPUCHEA. ENOUGH HAVE BEEN SAID. FUCK YOU, YOU PIECE OF SHIT. WHEN KHMER ROUGE TOOK POWER IN KAMPUCHEA I WAS ONLY 10 YEARS OLD, IT WAS THE PRECIOUS TIME OF MY LIFE, WHEN EDUCATION IS MY PRIME YEARS AND YOU FUCKING SO-CALLED LEADERS OF KAMPUCHEA HAVE DESTROYED JUST THAT. AND I HAVE TO SUFFER UNDER THIS EVIL REGIME THAT BROUGHT BY YOUR ILL INTENTIONS FOR ALL KHMERS. FOR THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE GOVERNMENT DURING THAT TIME, FUCK YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, BECAUSE YOU ARE APART OF THAT FUCKING SYSTEM THAT HELPED BROUGHT DESTRUCTION THIS FUCKING COUNTRY. AND FOR THOSE COWARDS WHO HAVE ESCAPED TO LIVE IN FRANCE, ENGLAND, UNITED STATES, OR ANYWHERE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER...MAY YOU BURN IN HELL AND I WISH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY WILL SERVERELY PUNICHED IN HELL FOR 1000
YEARS IN DARKNESS BEFORE YOU ARE ALLOWED TO BE REINCARNATE AS HUMAN AGAIN. WE DONT HAVE TO WISH WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO CAMBODIA, KAMPUCHEA OR KHMER, THIS LAND WILL BE BROUGHT UNDER THE NEW FEDERATION AS WE SPEAK. IN THE NEXT 50 YEARS THERE WOULD ONLY BE CHINA, INDOCHINA FEDERATION UNION AND THAILAND. YOU CAN FORGET ABOUT VIETNAM, LAOS OR CAMBODIA. EVERY FUCKING POLICIES WILL BE MADE IN HANOI AND DISSIMINATED INTO LAOS AND CAMBODIA. THIS REALIZATION IS HEADING THERE AS WE SPEAK. IT IS GOOD THAT THIS FUCKING KAMPUCHEA IS UNDER THE NEW LEADERSHIP OF VIETNAM. DONT BLAME THEM...BLAME YOUR FUCKING GREEDY BASTARDS FOR POWER WHICH BLINDED YOU AND CLOUDED YOUR JUDGEMENT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD HELP SHAPE KAMPUCHEA INTO ANY MODERN ERA. VIETNAMESE CHILDREN ARE BEING BORNED INTO KHMERS AS WE SPEAK. THEY LEARN OUR LANGUAGE, SPEAK THE MOTHER TONGUE, FUCK OUR WOMEN, AND SOON, THERE IS NO MORE KHMER. IT WOULD JUST BE SINO-KHMER. YOU DESERVE EVERY BIT OF IT YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. YOUR DAYS ARE COUNTING. YOUR ANGKOR DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING, BUT A USELESS STRUCTURES THAT WILL BE KEPT AS A DUMPING GROUND FOR THE SUPER ELITES.
FROM ME
UN SECURITY COUNCIL (USC)
Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kaing Guek Eav
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka
Hun Sen...
Committed:
Tortures
Brutality
Executions
Massacres
Mass Murder
Genocide
Atrocities
Crimes Against Humanity
Starvations
Slavery
Force Labour
Overwork to Death
Human Abuses
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...
Committed:
Attempted Murders
Attempted Murder on Chea Vichea
Attempted Assassinations
Attempted Assassination on Sam Rainsy
Assassinations
Assassinated Journalists
Assassinated Political Opponents
Assassinated Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Assassinated over 80 members of Sam Rainsy Party.
Sam Rainsy LIC 31 October 2009 - Cairo, Egypt
"As of today, over eighty members of my party have been assassinated. Countless others have been injured, arrested, jailed, or forced to go into hiding or into exile."
Executions
Executed over 100 members of FUNCINPEC Party
Murders
Murdered 3 Leaders of the Free Trade Union
Murdered Chea Vichea
Murdered Ros Sovannareth
Murdered Hy Vuthy
Murdered 10 Journalists
Murdered Khim Sambo
Murdered Khim Sambo's son
Murdered members of Sam Rainsy Party.
Murdered activists of Sam Rainsy Party
Murdered Innocent Men
Murdered Innocent Women
Murdered Innocent Children
Killed Innocent Khmer Peoples.
Extrajudicial Execution
Grenade Attack
Terrorism
Drive by Shooting
Brutalities
Police Brutality Against Monks
Police Brutality Against Evictees
Tortures
Intimidations
Death Threats
Threatening
Human Abductions
Human Abuses
Human Rights Abuses
Human Trafficking
Drugs Trafficking
Under Age Child Sex
Corruptions
Bribery
Embezzlement
Treason
Border Encroachment, allow Vietnam to encroaching into Cambodia.
Signed away our territories to Vietnam; Koh Tral, almost half of our ocean territory oil field and others.
Illegal Arrest
Illegal Mass Evictions
Illegal Land Grabbing
Illegal Firearms
Illegal Logging
Illegal Deforestation
Illegally use of remote detonate bomb on Sokha Helicopter, while Hok Lundy and other military officials were on board.
Lightning strike many airplanes, but did not fall from the sky. Lightning strike out side of airplane and discharge electricity to ground.
Source: Lightning, Discovery Channel
Illegally Sold State Properties
Illegally Removed Parliamentary Immunity of Parliament Members
Plunder National Resources
Acid Attacks
Turn Cambodia into a Lawless Country.
Oppression
Injustice
Steal Votes
Bring Foreigners from Vietnam to vote in Cambodia for Cambodian People's Party.
Use Dead people's names to vote for Cambodian People's Party.
Disqualified potential Sam Rainsy Party's voters.
Abuse the Court as a tools for CPP to send political opponents and journalists to jail.
Abuse of Power
Abuse the Laws
Abuse the National Election Committee
Abuse the National Assembly
Violate the Laws
Violate the Constitution
Violate the Paris Accords
Impunity
Persecution
Unlawful Detention
Death in custody.
Under the Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime, no criminals that has been committed crimes against journalists, political opponents, leaders of the Free Trade Union, innocent men, women and children have ever been brought to justice.
ពួកអាសត្វសៀមវាប្ល៉ន់យកទឹកដីខ្មែររាប់ម៉ឺនគីឡូម៉ែតកាឡាប៉ុន្តែអាបក្សប្រឆាំងនៅកម្ពុជាមិនដែលនិយាយមួយមាត់ណាទេពួកអាលក់ជាតិអស់ទាំងនេះ។វាឥញ្ជឹងហើយបានជាជុំនាន់ដើមវាអស់ទឹកអស់ដីគឺដោយសារតែអាពួកក្បត់ជាតិមួយក្តាប់តួចនឹងហើយធ្វើឲ្យអស់ទឹកអស់ដីរបស់កម្ពុជាពីជុំនាន់មុន។
បើសិនជារាជរដ្ធាភិបាលនៃប្រទេសកម្ពុជាដែលមានសម្តេចទាំងបីព្រមទាំងប្រជាពលរដ្ធកម្ពុជាគ្រប់និន្នាការជួយអភិវឌ្ឍន៍នៃប្រទេសកម្ពុជានោះទេប្រហែលអាពួកប្រឆាំងវាក៏ទ័ពក៏ទីងពាស់ពេញទឹកដីខ្មែរទៀតហើយឬក៏ពួកវាបរបួលអាមេរិកាំងដែលជាប្រទេសទីមួយបានសម្លាប់ពលរដ្ធខ្មែរអស់រាប់ម៉ឺននាក់មកស្រុកខ្មែរទៀហើយមើលទៅក៏ប៉ុន្តែរដ្ធាភិបាលកម្ពុជាលោកយល់ដឹងជាមុនក៏មិាពួកទាំងនេះធ្វើបានតាមចិត្តនោះទេ។
រដ្ធាភិបាលនៃប្រទេសកម្ពុជាគួរតែចាប់អាពួកប្រឆាំងទាំងអស់នឹងយកមកញាត់គុកឲ្យអស់ពីព្រោះអាពួកទាំងអស់នឹងមិនដែលជួយជាតិមួយនាទីណាទេ។
ពួកទាំងនេះសុទ្ធសឹងជាពួកអាក្បត់ជាតិខ្លួនឯងហើយស្រែកចំកោងពីបរទេសមកពួកវាមិនដែលហ៊ានយកជីវិតមកស្លាប់រស់នៅជាមួយប្រជាជនខ្មែរទេ។
ឥឡូវគឺឃ្មានបរទេសណាគេជឿពួកអាក្បត់ជាតិទាំងនោះទៀតទេហើយម្យ៉ាងវិញទៀតវាមិនដែលបានបង្ហាត់កូនចៅរបស់ពួកវាឲ្យយល់ដឹងអំពីប្រទេសកម្ពុជាទេ។កូនចៅអាក្បត់ជាតិទាំងនោះវាមិនទឹងចេះភាសារខ្មែរផងមានអាក្បត់ជាតិខ្លះកូនចៅរបស់ពួកវាមិនដែលស្តាប់ម៉ែឪទៀតផង។
កុំសូវរកតែរឿងខ្មែរគ្នាឯងពេកលោកស្រីអើយប្រយ័ត្ធដួចមីជុំទាវសុខហួរទៅ!ក្តខ្មែរមិនចូលចិត្តទេចូលចិត្តតែក្តបរទេស!ប្រយ័ត្ធវាស្លាប់ទៅ!
Who killed 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples?
a) Pol Pot
b) Nuon Chea
c) Ta Mok
d) Khieu Samphan
e) Son Sen
f) Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
g) Ieng Sary
h) Ieng Thearith
i) Chea Sim
j) Heng Samrin
k) Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
l) Keat Chhon
m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
n) Sim Ka
o) Hun Sen...
p) all of above
Source:
DC-CAM
Document Center of Cambodia
Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Hor Namhong, Keat Chhon, Ouk Bunchhoeun and Sim Ka has been summoned by the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC).
Which one of these Khmer Rouge(s) list below is the current Khmer Rouge Regime's leader?
a) Pol Pot
b) Nuon Chea
c) Ta Mok
d) Khieu Samphan
e) Son Sen
f) Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
g) Ieng Sary
h) Ieng Thearith
i) Chea Sim
j) Heng Samrin
k) Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
l) Keat Chhon
m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
n) Sim Ka
o) Hun Sen
Fact:
Pol Pot is a Khmer Rouge leader of the Democratic Kampuchea Khmer Rouge Regime.
Hun Sen was a Khmer Rouge commander of the Democratic Kampuchea Khmer Rouge Regime and now, a Khmer Rouge leader of the Cambodian People's Party Khmer Rouge Regime.
Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Hor Namhong, Keat Chhon, Ouk Bunchhoeun and Sim Ka has been summoned by the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC).
Which one of these Khmer Rouge(s) list below is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison?
a) Pol Pot
b) Nuon Chea
c) Ta Mok
d) Khieu Samphan
e) Son Sen
f) Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
g) Ieng Sary
h) Ieng Thearith
i) Chea Sim
j) Heng Samrin
k) Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
l) Keat Chhon
m) Ouk Bunchhoeun
n) Sim Ka
o) Hun Sen
Source:
DC-CAM
Document Center of Cambodia
Fact:
During the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime;
There are 196 prisons.
There are 196 prison chiefs.
There are 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples killed by the Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime.
Democratic Kampuchea Pol Pot Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Pol Pot
Nuon Chea
Ieng Sary
Ta Mok
Khieu Samphan
Son Sen
Ieng Thearith
Kaing Guek Eav aka Samak Mith Duch
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka
Hun Sen...
Kaing Guek Eav is a prison chief of Toul Sleng prison.
Source:
DC-CAM
Document Center of Cambodia
The UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) must indict 195 other prison chiefs.
"I will not allow the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders, I rather let the court (KRT ECCC) fail. Indict more Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders will lead the country into a civil war."
Samak Mith Hun Sen
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leader
Samak Mith Sen will not allow the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC) to indict more Khmer Rouge Regime leaders who is responsible for killing 1.7 million innocent Khmer peoples.
Samak Mith Hun Sen threaten to turn Cambodia back into the Killing Fields all over again.
War with whom?
War with innocent Khmer peoples without weapon?
Once a Khmer Rouge, always a Khmer Rouge.
A good Khmer Rouge(s) is a dead Khmer Rouge(s)
Khmer Rouge(s) continue to kill innocent Khmer peoples.
Cambodian People's Party Hun Sen Khmer Rouge Regime's leaders and members:
Hun Sen
Chea Sim
Heng Samrin
Hor Namhong aka Samak Mith Yaem
Keat Chhon
Ouk Bunchhoeun
Sim Ka...
"(Samak Mith) Duch (Kaing Guek Eav) 19 years sentence is too short and doesn't fit his crimes."
Samak Mith Yaem (Hor Namhong)
Prison Chief of Boeung Trabek prison
What's Hor Namhong trying to do is, he want the whole world to know that he is not a Khmer Rouge and a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison.
Hor Namhong is a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison.
Source:
Phnom Penh Post
Hor Namhong said to the French judge that he is not a prison chief of Boeung Trabek prison, in fact members of his family was killed by Khmer Rouge(s).
Hor Namhong can lies all he want, at the end, he got summoned and will get indict, prosecute, convict and sentence.
Criminals likes to lies.
The place where criminals lies the most is inside the court room in front of the judge(s).
Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, Hor Namhong, Keat Chhon, Ouk Bunchhoeun and Sim Ka has been summoned by the UN back Khmer Rouge Tribunal court (ECCC).
Anonymous said...The one who wrote in Khmer language above my blog was blind both eyes and even his heart .You think that the Hun Sen government is good. Who is Hun Sen ? He is a Khmer Rouge and also Vietnamese slave.Look ! How many Vietnamese illegal immigrants are living in Cambodia now ? You wrote Khmer,but your brain is Vietnamese.How many Vietnamese people work in Hun Sen government? How many Vietnamese people are hiding in rubber camps ? You are an evil man.
Hay Theary, don't make this sound so fancy - It is not "the gravity of crimes committed", it just "crime" against humanity(period)! This absolute crime that KR had committed should be punish absolutely by the "law"...he is not trial by God! Why you just made the statement that God will do the altimate justic (due to the vertical justice of the state - it wouldn't matter much?..)...In addition,whether by "words" for forgiveness or by "God" forgiveness - it would not errase the deed that had done and the live that he had taken. Theary, within your heart - are you truely believe that due to the "vertical justice" of Cambodian government...we shouldn't be worry because the "horizontal justice" by God will take care of it? I don't think you do! Unless you want to kiss govt.'s ass and supporting their so call "vertical justice" as you had put it...you just prostitute your soul...
Hello, brother or sister of 7:13PM
I want to clarify that,Christian is not a religion, it is a personal life connect directly to the living God who created the univers and put life to take care of it. He personally support us ( non-christian & christian)in our daily life. He love every body without condition.
Jesus Christ (mean) the one who can save.
Jesus is Greek word, translate from
the word Joshua (Hebrew) mean to save. and translate into khmer word are: God of Love=Preah Se-Ar-Metri,
Remember, when Budha pass away, he told Ananan that "you have to wait for the one who will come and that is the loving God who will save you
from the lake of fire.
wat the fucks.. all these guys waiting for the fucking fool to come save yr asses... who the fucks are all these fucking gods never able to speak a khmer word.
what did they do when they saw the killing of millions of ppl including the fucking christians and buddhists, islamists?
stop spreading all the non-senses...
8:04am, my ass is laughing at you. trying to twist shit around.
lovely brother of 9:25am and 9:31Am,
Whoever you are, God still love you and He still give you His free air to breath. just remember this:
Love will spread peace.
Hate will spread war. and that what we are all facing today. whatever you said, we all still love you.
God Bless you. If you have question or want to understand more about the living God, Please E-Mail me at
Phonnem@gmail.com
9:25am and 9:31am, Take a deep breath and relax and think about this "We all born to the world to see light, because of our graceful parent, so that mean not a single things come to the world without the Creator (God).
Just think this, let say you sleep and wake up and the rice is there for you to eat, see.
This is only the first punishment for Dutch--so he gets a 19-year sentence in and he will die in prison, the second one is awaiting him in hell where he would be burn alive in an eternal fire pit.
I believe that UN judges have been swayed by emotional influence from Dutch as he has asked for leniency on his punishment.
Should Dutch be forgiven for crime against humanity? Absolutely no. This man must take the responsibility of the crime he committed; and so he should not be given a lenient prison term. How could a criminal like Ductch who kills thousands of innocent cambodians be handed 19 years in confinement?
10:43am and 10:56am, you try to hard with all you might; you are still a phony, two-face, hypocrite individual(s) using christianity as a facade. you are still rotten. Let's face it if the Cambodian people aren't capable of forgiving, do you think there have been this much peace this past ten years? I am talking about among the common population where there are many murderers and victims inter-mingle. People would be hacking and shooting one another every damn day. You are one pretentious bunch. I have seen and interacted with your kind. So spare me the patronizing. You just make me want to puke.
12:21 PM - this is only happen in Cambodia, because they know that the highest up in the current govt. committed mental torture crime against their own people (event a textbook mention something about his performent - would has the law to pull the books out of classroom, so that no Khmer students can read anything bed about him). Now the question is which regime - the KR or the HS regime committed the highest crime against their own people? Mass Killing quickly(KR) or the one that torture and rape off Khmer identity slowly (HS)?
2:08pm - so just because i'm a khmer christian you call me a two-faced hypocrite? i wonder what makes you think that way. is it because i serve people in my community for free? or is it because i've just built a school for children who otherwise will have to walk 20km everyday to learn kar khhar; or is it because i don't get drunk and beat my wife? or is it because i refuse to steal state asset or abuse power when my colleagues do? may be i should become "normal" like you ?
5:18pm, I reckon you can read but you can not grasp the meaning of anything. yes, I am "normal" because I travel out to remote sroks to provide dental hygene and health check up for free with my few colleagues every few week. now what sroks and phums that you hav ebuilt a schools in and serve for free? I have travelled in my suv all over the Cambodia, so I say did not miss much. I think you lied through your teeth. you two faced hypocrite. you think you walk on water but in fact youjust stepped on a pile o fown shit.n
2:08, Brother! cool yourself down and read the quot again: Hate spread the war and love spread peace. among all level of khmer people, some of them, if not all have the word hatred in their mind (criminal mind or murderer)that why we still face hardship today, But if every khmer decide to put away old self (hatred)
and put a new self (love) in every khmer mind, guaranty our khmer will have peace in the future. Just let
you know that, your quot "you just make me want to puke" is the word coming out of the criminal mind, so
do yourself a favor by put a new self in your (love), I believe that
you are a good person. I pray for you brother, no matter what you said. take care and if you want to know more a bout (love) E-Mail me
at PHONNEM@GMAIL.COM. And 5:18Pm, thank you my lovely brother, let us
praise for him, one day God will show him the way just like what he did to Paul and Us. Thank you and God bless you.
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