Tuesday, November 02, 2010

Observers See Balance Shift With Vietnam, China

Photo: Courtesy of Bill Hayton
Sok Khemara, VOA Khmer
Washington Monday, 01 November 2010
“We have seen that the influence of China over Cambodia is enormous, and Vietnam is turning to the US.”
Cambodia's improving relationship with China has become cause for concern in Vietnam, which has long held warm ties of its own with its neighbor, according to the author of a new book.

Bill Hayton, author of “Vietnam: Rising Dragon,” told VOA Khmer in Washington the Vietnamese now fear Cambodia will become “a satellite of China.”

So they are very, very keen to see [that] Cambodia remains a friendly country,” he said. “And obviously they are in the position to have an enormous amount of influence in Cambodia.”

Political and economic ties have so far kept Vietnam and Cambodia close, “and they want to keep that position,” said Hayton, who is also a producer for BBC World News.


In recent years, China has expanded its own political, economic and military ties with Cambodia, providing a flood of aid money in a trend that has rights activists worried.

Meanwhile, the US and Vietnam have forged stronger ties. But Vietnam also has a lot of investment in Cambodia, up 10 percent over the last year, including electricity deals, rubber plantatio ns and exports.

Observers now wonder where how these competing balances will play out.

“We have seen that the influence of China over Cambodia is enormous, and Vietnam is turning to the US,” said Chheang Vannarith, a fellow at the East-West Center and executive director of the Cambodian Institute for Cooperation and Peace. “So this is a crossroads that Cambodia faces.”

Of particular concern is how human rights issues play second to economic deals. All parties have become better economic partners, but the US still diverges with both China and Vietnam on human rights.

“When we look at the relationship between the US and Vietnam, we see that the human rights issue remains murky,” Chheang Vannarith said. “So with the issues of human rights and economic interests, we have to know how to balance which one is more important. I think that when the economy grows, maybe the human rights issue doesn't get any attention, because economic interests are larger.”

Hayton acknowledged that human rights in Vietnam have been overshadowed by economic interests.

While some Western countries have made inroads in democracy and opening society in Vietnam, he said, “the one thing that isn't changing is the fact that the Vietnamese Communist Party is still going to run the country.”

“The Western governments adjust their policies, and they will call for the release of dissidents,” he said. “But they are not going to impose sanctions on Vietnam, because they don't see [that] it would help their cause and wider interests.”

48 comments:

Anonymous said...

if you check the viet gov't style, they are still communism. on the other hand, cambodian gov't is more democractic in principle, etc...

what is viet got to fear with a strong, vibrant cambodia? is viet try to keep cambodia weak so that they can walk all over us? not a chance as cambodia do have our own mind, uncontrollable by viet's ambition. the US should make cambodia a new ally of america, this way, viet can't play politics with cambodia again!

Anonymous said...

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ថ្ងៃណានឹងរលាយរូបទេ។បើប្រឆាំងដើ់ម្បីប្រទេស
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Anonymous said...

soon vietcong gonna be like the khmer rouge back in the 70's.

Can't be too closed to the US, while your border are with china.

Soon, Khmer and Laos gonna be freed from Hanoi.

Anonymous said...

Please do not forget that Vietnam put more enforcements and political mechanisms into Cambodia.

Who will be benefited from political pressure is remained to be seen?.

Be ware that Cambodia lost 2-3 millions,if true census was up to date,to the killingfield by Viet tricks.

Be cautious at all time when you handle a very poisinous snake,like Vietnam,gentlemen!.

Peasant

Anonymous said...

what a loser king go beg viet nam for staying as king and can not beg by himself he even bring his mother which we oun her thru hun sen and cpp and then his father...

you all khmer are a loser race and soon will be erase from this earth...

long live viet nam.. soon we will have nuclear power we will kill all of you so we dont have to waste our resources..

Today we signed 2 nuclear with Japan, 8 with Russia and soon USA will transfer the know how and also technology to make uranium .. then we will erase you all useless khmer from this earth...

now we will use you -- hun sen -cpp is our greaest slave to get more money from china and world for us..
your loser race can not even make toothpick..
LONG LIVE VIET NAM

Anonymous said...

"warm tie with its neighbor????"
what a big lie!

Anonymous said...

Cambodia better let China takeover soon! It's better to be a province of China than Youn Gooks! Why this idiot author cares about the relationship between Vietnam and Cambodia! The Khmers ambition is to kick out all of the illegal/legal youns out of Cambodia regardless of anything! Fuck VIETNAM!! LONG LIVE CHINA!!!!

Anonymous said...

SHORT LIVE VIET NAM... We wish that we would not have been born as Vietnamese …
bạn là đồ ngu người má ăn thịt chó.

We are Vietnamese and proud to be dog eaters who live and die like dogs….
Ah đồ má con chó,

Anonymous said...

China take over Cambodia NOWWWWW!!! Don't let the YOUNS GET CLOSER TO CAMBODIA! I rather be under the great China than the inferior Youns! After you take over Cambodia build the great wall near the border so no Youns can come to Cambodia!

Anonymous said...

If the US is acting like the old damn French colonial power and treating Cambodia as a junior to the vietcongs, the Chinese will exploit that condition and fully support and engage with Cambodia.

The message and action must be clear - no junior party to any vietcong federation.

Anonymous said...

The Youn Hanoi should worry about their country and not interfere with other countries internal affair! China-Cambodia is the way to go! FUCK OFF YOUN GOOK!

Anonymous said...

you are all dreaming... we control your soul .. there are no way out for you all useless khmer...

Anonymous said...

We do not agree much with the author's view about China and Vietnam influence over Cambodia. Yes, China has more influence in Cambodia but not directly as Vietnam did. Vietnam has built its strong and deep roots in Cambodia over 30 years, through its puppet regime, CPP. It has political and military network operated secretly behind Hun Sen's government. China has no such network in Cambodia. But, China has thrown much more money, economic and military aids to this regime. The problem is, if Vietnam accepts Chinese patronage as it did to the Soviet Union in the 1970 -1989, Cambodia would fallow through this line as in 1979 through 1989. But, if Vietnam rejects Chinese patronage and forces its Cambodian puppet regime to fallow it, the real conflict would explode in someday. Let make it clear that Vietnam and China want to control Cambodia in different term. China wants to keep Cambodia under its sphere of influence, but Vietnam not only want to keep influence over Cambodia but to colonize and swallow cambodia as China has done over Tibet.

Anonymous said...

^^ 9:07 I strongly agree with you! If China wants to control Cambodia it would first have to get rid of the Youn secret military soldiers hidden among Hun Xen's armies! Then China would have to kick out the 5 million Youns out of CAMBODIA because most of them are spies for Hanoi! Then China have to build the great wall next to the border of Whorenam!

Anonymous said...

To prevent Chinese taking over Cambodia, the US must prop up Cambodia like her 51st state or Israel.

Strategically, the vietcongs would not blend well as a China's protege. So, a strong, independent, American leaning Cambodia will have a balancing effect.

Anonymous said...

SHORT LIVE VIET NAM... We wish that we would not have been born as Vietnamese …
bạn là đồ ngu người má ăn thịt chó.

We are Vietnamese and proud to be dog eaters who live and die like dogs….
Ah đồ má con chó,

Anonymous said...

say all you want but at the end we vietnam we do what it takes for our national interest.. which mean to control your soul and your country and soon thailand...

soon you have nothing to say because you will be erase from this earth..

but look at who is talking.. you idiot and stupid country is under our control and khmer peoples are walk, eat and live like a dog..


LONG LIVE VIET NAM

Anonymous said...

The reason why i said that Cambodia should lean more towrds China and not the U.S. is the fact that the U.S. DOESN'T CARE ABOUT ANY COUNTRY BUT ONLY THEIR OWN INTEREST! THEY DON'T CARE IF CAMBODIA IS A DICTATOR COUNTRY! If this is the case might as well joined with China at least they are more interested in countering the YOUNS INFLUENCE!

Anonymous said...

LONG LIVE VIET NAM

8:04 AM

An ca lon tao ne!

KPP

Anonymous said...

Khmer is useless beggars, they can't do everything on their own, waiting for people to give them some shit to eat and swear, hahahah. Everyone looks down on Scambodia

Anonymous said...

If ah Vietnam would go with the USA,Cambodia sould go with the China.These two giants superpower will collide with each other in Southeast Asia?.The China never forgot a short fight between both of them in 1979 and right now China claims to get some islands in South China sea.The China was supporting Pol Pot,will she support ah Hhun Xen?

Anonymous said...

Go Giants!!! 2010 World Series Champion!

Love America, Love Cambodia!

The vietcongs, well, they are just the neighbor that all Khmers should watch out for...

Anonymous said...

CHINA HURRY UP AND TAKE OVER CAMBODIA! WE WILL HAVE A PARTY IF CHINA TAKE OVER CAMBODIA! LET'S CELEBRATE GUYS! FUCK VIETNAM WHORE!

Anonymous said...

let us all khmer unit for this one last time..

LIVE FREE or DIE

Anonymous said...

CHINA HURRY UP AND TAKE OVER CAMBODIA! WE WILL HAVE A PARTY IF CHINA TAKE OVER CAMBODIA! LET'S CELEBRATE GUYS! FUCK VIETNAM WHORE!

Anonymous said...

VIETCONG AMBITION IS TO SWALLOW UP CAMBODIA AND LAOS! BUT CHINA NEEDS TO HURRY UP AND SWALLOW CAMBODIA BEFORE THE VIETCONG DOGS GET THEIR HANDS ON US! LONG LIVE CHINA! FUCK VIETNAM WHORE!!!

Anonymous said...

VIETCONG AMBITION IS TO SWALLOW UP CAMBODIA AND LAOS! BUT CHINA NEEDS TO HURRY UP AND SWALLOW CAMBODIA BEFORE THE VIETCONG DOGS GET THEIR HANDS ON US! LONG LIVE CHINA! FUCK VIETNAM WHORE!!!

Anonymous said...

If China wants to control Cambodia it would first have to get rid of the Youn secret military soldiers hidden among Hun Xen's armies! Then China would have to kick out the 5 million Youns out of CAMBODIA because most of them are spies for Hanoi! Then China have to build the great wall next to the border of Whorenam!

Anonymous said...

correct.. you said it all..

but how?

Anonymous said...

As guerilla fighters, we had the pleasure to kill some of Youns at the Cambodian-Thai border clashes between 1980-89. Admittedly, they did kill some of our friends too.

We pledged to exact the revenge of their deaths when and if we make it to America, we will find away to wipe out this evil Viet Cong race, who for centuries, encroached upon on our lands and that of the former neighbors, from the face of the planet.

After serving a decade in US military, a few of us who made it to America found the perfect formula that would require the least number of people that could inflict maximum damage to our cut-throat traditional enemy:

E = MC^2 by means of fission-induced thermal fusion.

A few of us had gone on to achieving doctorate degrees in particle physics and hi-energy physics. And because of our US military backgrounds, we were accepted to work at some of US’s premier research labs in the country.

We had gone back to Cambodia more than a few dozen times to see if we can achieve NUCLEAR CRITICALITY there with our locally enriched uranium/plutonium isotopes.

We are sure if we can wipe the Viet Cong out from the face of this planet, China, Thailand, all of the Viet Cong’s immediate neighbors, and much to the delight of US government who lost 58,000 soldiers and a few billion dollars during Vietnam war will be more than pleased to see it happen.

Knowing the averaged velocity of monsoon wind, the land mass, and a population of 88.6 million, it would take one or several devices much less than a megaton magnitude to do the job. And Cambodia is only one a few minutes at Mach one-three to reach the epicenter—Hanoi or somewhere close by—at altitude 10,000 feet for better coverage.

Viet Cong will build several nuclear power plants in the coming years, but they will never get to handle fuels themselves, and they have much less burning passion to take care of Khmers the way we have-nothing-to-lose scientific Khmer minds want to take of them.

We had lost everything—or better yet, WE HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.

We need to fight this Youn evil with our greatest intelligence that built Khmer Empire by harnessing the power of the sun with only a few bright minds.

If we have to sacrifice 14 million Khmers, we would die in great pleasure knowing that we can take all of 88.5 million Viet Cong with us.

SO BRING IT ON "LONG LIVE VIET NAME"!

COURTESY OF JAYAVARMAN VII

Anonymous said...

no more chance for anyone to do anything to Viet Nam..

We are with the USA now..even without the USA .. we still be in control .becuase we are smarter.. we even control cambodia and laos and soon thailand..


LONG LIVE VIET NAM......

Anonymous said...

shut up, vietcong 10:24 AM. stop bragging about how your people can make toothpicks, man. you are becoming so annoying. go feed the fish under your boat with your dumps and catch one for your cookin' while you are at it...

Anonymous said...

If YounCONG country is so rich why can't YounCong go back tot their country and lived there ahahhaahah!! DUMB INFERIOR YOUNS!

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Anonymous said...

To 11:34AM

You sound like gangster who is uneducate and notorious, this kind of this people should be wipe out from this world coz they had a life to live without tolerate the same human!!!
I think your action is not a human action should a wild one!!!
How sad you are !!! If your shcool doesn't have any lesson in teaching of morality Please ask me for the lesson I will teach you free please contact me
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Anonymous said...

The day Yuon take over Cambodia is the day when China will turn Hanoi into Handung. Yes, Hanoi will turned into a piece of dung real estate.

The lazy Yuon will eat sure know what eating roots and leaves is like.

Anonymous said...

I see the jobless Yuon 11:34AM barking all the time in this blog.

Dog eater Yuon!

Anonymous said...

This know nothing author about vietnam and vietnamese communist. He want to tell the world that vietnamese thieves worry about china influent in Cambodia and Cambodian government. But in reality this fucking author do not know that the fucking vietnamese took over Champa in the past from Muslim, took Prey Nokor Kampuchea Krom and kohs Tral from Cambodia. This mother fucker author must be eating too much viet pussy.

Anonymous said...

One thing is true it depends on vietnamese governemt behavior. If the vietnamese government can be able to colonze Cambodia and Lao as their slave and puppet so can china to colonnze the whole Asian. Chinese communist has every thing they need to be the world supper power and enough man power to control and to colonize all Asian countries. The chinese communist has a lot of money to build high tech weapons. The chinese also has the ability and know how to build hight tech weapon and system to delivery it. They have more than 1.3 billion of people to fight the third Asian world war. So it's up to Ho Chi Minh and the viet govenment.

Anonymous said...

what a loser king go beg viet nam for staying as king and can not beg by himself he even bring his mother which we oun her thru hun sen and cpp and then his father...

you all khmer are a loser race and soon will be erase from this earth...

long live viet nam.. soon we will have nuclear power we will kill all of you so we dont have to waste our resources..

Today we signed 2 nuclear with Japan, 8 with Russia and soon USA will transfer the know how and also technology to make uranium .. then we will erase you all useless khmer from this earth...

now we will use you -- hun sen -cpp is our greaest slave to get more money from china and world for us..
your loser race can not even make toothpick..
LONG LIVE VIET NAM

Anonymous said...

china are not that smart like us the vietnamese.. they are only big in size but hollow inside...

if they are smart they would control cambodia or other coutnry already...

but we do we control you soul not to mention you king, hunsen-cpp ..

you are useless race...

Anonymous said...

5:12PM,

China will put man on the moon the next 10 years.

Your sorry Vietnam will still learn to make fishing boat. Why? Because a sorry Viet like yourself just spend time in KI-Media instead of doing something productive.

God eat more dog, you sorry Viet.

Anonymous said...

A couple of years ago China destroyed their old satellite by shooting it down with missile fired from the ground. It was a signal to the West China's technological precision weapons.

If China has such capability, and should they want to use it against Hanoi, or Ho Chi Min City how hard is it for them to hit it?

Vietnam better behave well and not tick off China. Vietnam was part of China for one thousand years. Should China want it back it is not that difficult.

All you Vietnamese better learn Chinese if that ever to happen. Hanoi, or whatever left of it, will be called Hanzhou. And Vietnam will be called Yuenan.

The idiot above 5:12PM have no clue what he is talking about.

Anonymous said...

By the time Vietnam or Whornam take over the world everybody will live in the moon ahahahahahahahahahaha!!

Anonymous said...

Some of the blogers may have contradicted themself.

If you believe that Vietnam controlled Cambodia, like some of SRP has believed, then you don't have to worry about China because the relationship was approved by Vietnam.

But, if you believe that Cambodia can run their foreign policy independently, then Vietnam need to worry about Cambodia/China relationship. You have to remember that Khmere King is living in China.

I believe that Cambodia will stand and benefit from this game. It is not a choice for Cambodia to stand on the side line.

Another point to remember, China invaded Vietnam when Vietnam invaded Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

VC will alway be poors nations. Never gain anything.. vietnam people suffer in that country.

Anonymous said...

9:46 AM is Khmer in Sydney CBD, Hun Sen cock sucker.

Anonymous said...

I see a lot of comments from Khmer people begging China to take over their country, and treat Cambodia as a province of China....why would you guys want to do that? why would you guys want other country to eat your country? I feel sorry for you Khmer people.