Thursday, April 28, 2011

Thailand and Cambodia: The Endgame?

Thai soldiers are seen during a visit by Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva, following armed clashes on a disputed border area between Cambodia and Thailand, at a makeshift camp in Surin province, 30 km (19 miles) from the Thai-Cambodia border, April 27, 2011. (Sukree Sukplang/Courtesy Reuters)

Border clash with Thailand: a welcome distraction for the CPP from other pressing problems, such as the pending eviction of thousands of poor Cambodians from central Phnom Penh to make way for a development given to a close associate of the prime minister
Wednesday, April 27, 2011
by Joshua Kurlantzick
Council on Foreign Relations


As the conflict between Thailand and Cambodia over the Preah Vihear temple spirals out of control, with fighting now spreading to new locations, outside observers have desperately been trying to cool tempers. Not only Indonesia but also other ASEAN countries, including Vietnam, have been putting pressure on the two sides to back off from the brink. China apparently has applied pressure as well. ASEAN as an organization fears that the continuing dispute will only make it look more feckless than it is often perceived to be – and so Thai Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva apparently will discuss the conflict with Cambodian Prime Minister Hun Sen on the sidelines of the ASEAN summit in May in Jakarta.

Do not expect any miracles. Key constituencies in both nations are benefiting too much from the border dispute to allow it to die out completely now. As I mentioned yesterday, the Thai army clearly sees the dispute as a way to rally nationalist sentiment and also, most importantly, to entrench the armed forces at the center of national security and political life. In the run-up to what is expected to be a hotly contested national election, keeping in the center of politics will be crucial for the military, and so they are unlikely to abandon the dispute.

Cambodia’s key constituencies have just as much reason to prolong the dispute, even though citizens may suffer. (But then, having citizens suffer has never been a major problem for policymakers in Cambodia.) The dispute allows Hun Sen’s oldest son, Hun Manet, to play a larger role in military policymaking, potentially positioning him one day to take over running the country from his father. And the dispute, by fanning nationalist flames in Cambodia as well, distracts from other pressing problems, such as the pending eviction of thousands of poor Cambodians from central Phnom Penh to make way for a development given to a close associate of the prime minister. With Cambodia’s domestic troubles unlikely to disappear, the Preah Vihear dispute probably will not either.

16 comments:

Anonymous said...

This article is useless facts. Why don't u put in the article that soon there will be no more thailand on the map.

Anonymous said...

Khmer Surin fight with Khmer Kampuchea, killing each other while the Vietnam is looting the Cambodian businesses, resources and land.

Anonymous said...

All Khmer must understand that the Khmer-Thai war is simply ah Youn trick to turn away Khmer and the world attention from its strategy to swallow Cambodia. Have you seen while Youn prime minister come to meet Hun Sen to accelerate to finish installing the border posts, in the mean time, Preah Vihear clash happened? Each accuse each other whom the first start the fire. As the Khmer people, do you always believe that Thai started to fire first? Have you seen Thai start the first as what CPP government backed by Youn? Do you always believe CPP government what they told you? Is CPP a credible government? If they want to finish that war is very sample. They need simply to bring that case to the UN Security Council and insist them to result the case by the UN rather the ASEAN. The case come to ASEAN was the YOUN plan, it s happen because Ah Horn am Hong is a YOUN who manage the case accordingly to Ah Youn plan. If the case resulted by the UN Khmer will have advantage on everything accordingly to the peace accord agreement on October 23th 1991. That accord will result the same time the Youn encroachment on Khmer land. That is why, ah Youn and ah Hun Sen Gang always wishes that ASEAN result that case. You do remember that ah Hun Sen said that war will last many years, they know that in their plan is to create that war to turn Khmer attention away from what Ah You is swallowing Cambodia such as: Boeung Kak issue, Prey Lang, Border encroachment, Youn immigration, Oil drilling management, atrocity to Khmer people and so many more. This war is also to help Youn economics to export their good to Cambodia when Thai border is unstable. More and more I believe Khmer is on the brink of REVOLUTION which is the only way to save Cambodia.

Anonymous said...

Let Thailand choose Their supplier backbone and war tactics such as USA, UK etc. And Cambodia choose China, Russia and Vietnam.

Let use Cambodia as the main battlefield.

Let start Fighting between Thai and Khmer, who has the most and best fighting forces? since the french and american lost Their power in South East Asia.

What ever side win the war, the Super Power win....

Let Use Their Bloods and super power weapons and Tactics.

Anonymous said...

អាយ៉ងក្បត់ជាតិ ហ៊ុន សែន ជាមេឃាតករឈាមត្រជាក់ ហើយក៏ជាមេគ្រោះថ្នាក់ធំជាងគេនៅក្នុងប្រទេសខ្មែរ
បើមិននាំគ្នាកំចាត់វាចោលទេ ប្រទេសខ្មែរគ្មានថ្ងៃបាន
សុខសាន្ត និងអភិវឌ្ឍន៍ប្រទេសជាតិ ឱ្យចម្រើនលូតលាស់
បានឡើយ។

Anonymous said...

I want to see Khmer Gov't reconsider the fighting policy with Siamese, from protecting to become a temporary occuppy in order to warning Siamese Gov't respect: 1)international border line 1904, stop jalousy with what Vietnam have gained from Mr Hun Sen. 2)to stop Siamese keep playing be a vistime nation instead of agressor. 3) to stop Siam thieve plying flip-flop with us.4) Telling Siamese Gov't withdraw back all their military personals to where they supose to be.5) to allowing Siamese acept unarm personal observers inside the dispute areas. Cambodian Gov't should balancing to considering these two policies. Stay grounded to protect homeland which one is greater cost in term of lives emmunitions money exct... As my observation Khmer should advance rather than stay ground it' possible cost less in term of military lives, the war itself will end sooner because Siamese getting clearlier message from us. to play only defensive lives potantially suffering longer, more bigger lost many thing part of Cambodian. If the game when one of the team playing only defensive, it will have no chance to play off for the season! Thing about it Mr.Hun Sen!
P.K.L

Anonymous said...

Welcome to Nam Bojia. And welcome to a family own country from Norodom Sihanouk to Sihamoni Sihanouk and from Hun Sen to Hun Manet. After all they are Youn slave, care nothing about the Khmer People but their own power.
Khmer people need to stand up and Lon Nol Cambodia again so you can own your land back.
Khmer Poi Paet live in US.

Anonymous said...

Var Kim Hong does recognize that Cambodia, if compared to the colonial Service Geographique de l’Indochine scale map 1/100,000 and the 1985 delimitation treaty, will loses 9,000 hectares; and compared to U.S Army Mapping Service scale map 1/50,000 with the 1985 Treaty, would lose about 7,900 hectares to Vietnam. This statement was confirmed by Var Kim Hong to Mr. Touch Bora Esq through a telephone conversation on 30 August 2002 at 4:30 p.m. (Sydney time), which Mr. Touch Bora Esq wrote in his letter dated on 9 September 2002 sent to Sam Dach Ta Noroudom Sihanouk concerning over border affairs.
In fact, the loss is absolutely more than the 1000 square kilometers stated by MP Sam Rainsy in his statement, if we add the size of the historical water of 30000 square kilometers awarded to Vietnam under the 1982 Agreement which has been into affect and now already become under the full control of Vietnam. And this would not be the last if the equidistance principle be used to delimit the maritime boundary, Cambodia will lose an additional area of sea and seabed measuring at least 860 square nautical miles from the Brevie Line to the north, analyzed by Mr. Touch Bora Esq or another 10000 square kilometers confirmed by Mr. Sean Pengse, the President of the Cambodian Border Committee Worldwide, which exclusively include another Koh Poula Wai to Vietnam added to the previous lost islands- Koh Tral (Dao Phu Quoc) and Koh Poulo Panjang (Dao Thu Chu).

This is why sVar Kim Hong said in front of Students´s Movement for Democracy (SMD), and Sam Dach Ta Norodom Sihanouk on 22 Janaury 2000 during our audience with him concerning the border resolution with Vietnam that; “If we want peace, we must sacrifice our flesh to the tiger.” The truth is discovered now that, “Sacrifice the flesh to tiger actually means cutting our land to the Viet.” This word was clearly spoken out from his mouth and there were Sam Dach Ta as witness and 31 members.

We must condemn this Var Kim Hong for his role in helping the traitorous regime of Hun Sen.

Smart Khmer Girl Ms. Rattana Keo,

Anonymous said...

Koh Tral Island must not be forgotten

By Ms. Rattana Keo

Why do Koh Tral Island, known in Vietnam as Phu Quoc, a sea and land area covering proximately over 10,000 km2 [Note: the actual land size of Koh Tral itself is 574 square kilometres (222 sq miles)] have been lost to Vietnam by whose treaty? Why don’t Cambodia government be transparent and explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?

Cambodian armies are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 on the Thai border and what's about over 10,000km2 of Cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian armies you are decide the fate of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?

Koh Tral Island, the sea and land area of over 10,000 square kilometres have been lost to Vietnam by the 1979 to 1985 treaties. The Cambodian army at front line as well as all Cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are Cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protecting a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group but disguising as protecting the Khmer nation?

The Cambodian army at front lines suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs, lack of foods, lack of nutrition and their families have no health care assistance, no securities after they died but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning system with message from young girls, have first class medical care from oversea medical treatments, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make the Cambodian people suffer everyday.

Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that resulted in the loss over 10,000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why they are not being transparent and brave enough to inform all Cambodians and Cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't they include Koh Tral (Koh Tral size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen and bigger than Singapore [Note: Singapore's present land size is 704 km2 (271.8 sq mi)]) with heap of great natural resources, in the Cambodian education system?

Look at Hun Sen's families, relatives and friends- they are billionaires, millionaires. Where did they get the money from when we all just got out of war with empty hands [in 1979]? Hun Sen always say in his speeches that Cambodia had just risen up from the ashes of war, just got up from Year Zero with empty hands and how come they are billionaires, millionaires but 90% of innocent Cambodian people are so poor and struggling with their livelihood every day?

Smart Khmer girl Ms. Rattana Keo,

Anonymous said...

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE TO HUN SEN REGIME!

And in a fresh blow to the regime, 233 members of Syria's ruling Baath party announced their resignation in protest at the deadly crackdown on protesters, according to lists seen by AFP.


"The security services have demolished the values with which grew up. We denounce and condemn everything that has taken place and announce with regret our resignation from the party," they said in a signed statement.


Baath party signatories from the Banias region, which covers Daraa, condemned "the house raids and the indiscriminate use of live fire against people, homes, mosques and churches."


On the international scene, influential US Senator John McCain said Assad has "lost his legitimacy" and called for UN sanctions to force him to halt attacks on his people.


"I obviously think he has lost his legitimacy. He has ordered his army to fire on his own people, and yes I think he should leave," the senator told AFP in Paris.

Anonymous said...

This mother fucker called Hun Sen regime will have no hesitage in kill Cambodian people such as K5, 1997 coup and so on....Hun SEn regime murdered thousands of khmer people by shooting in the head one by one in 1997 coup.

Anonymous said...

Thai F16 must bomb Hun Sen base not the border. If thai f16 bomb hun sen base, he will run to Vietnam as 1997 coup. Than UN, American, NATO...have cambodia get new fair election such Mr. Sam Rainsy to be PM of Cambodia but Mr Sam rainsy please don't copy Dr. Prince in courruption ok. Khmer suffer enogh khmer need great leader that truely love real khmer nation as American president love American people.

Anonymous said...

Thai soldiers are looking brave and ready fight with the khmer enemy.
But Khmer soldiers are looking "Notorious" fighting with it own unarmed civilians poor Innocence khmer women and children.

The world is going judge Hun Sen's Regime in the history books.

Anonymous said...

I called for Tomahawk to strikes on Hun Sen' compound and it 5,000vietname bodyguards before advancing forces to liberate Phnom penh and capture some of hun sen' key and cut their heads, tongues and eat eir livers.

Anonymous said...

Kho khov jeang Pol Pot tov tiet, kmean korup sartrey tae , nis heui samay KARP JOR HAR ROIY.

Tan Vittyea

Anonymous said...

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Hun Sen will insert another B-21 into ms rattana keo ass hole at the same time too