Thailand to query the word 'vicinity' at ICJ
5/05/2011
Pradit Ruangdit, Thanida Tansubhapol & Manop Thip-Osod
Bangkok Post
Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva indicated yesterday he had no intention of holding talks on the border clashes with Cambodia's Prime Minister Hun Sen at the Asean Summit in Indonesia.
"Don't forget that I met Hun Sen four times late last year, and then in February clashes erupted," Mr Abhisit said.
"And I insist that each clash is not an accident. It is an intention to internationalise the issue."
The clashes are part of Cambodia's strategy in dealing with territorial disputes, according to the premier.
He also doubted Cambodia's claim that the fighting continued because in part it could not control its troops.
Mr Abhisit said Thailand was making preparations to face Cambodia at the International Court of Justice (ICJ), which has asked Thailand and Cambodia to give statements on May 30-31.
Cambodia has asked the court to interpret its 1962 verdict on the Preah Vihear temple and issue an urgent ruling, including an immediate and unconditional withdrawal of Thai troops from the land surrounding the temple and a ban on Thai military activity in the area.
In the 1962 verdict, the court said: "Thailand is under an obligation to withdraw any military or police forces, or other guards or keepers, stationed by her at the temple, or in its vicinity on Cambodian territory."
Cambodia wants the ICJ to interpret the term "vicinity" mentioned in the ruling.
Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya said the Thai team to the ICJ will be led by Thai ambassador to the Hague, Virachai Plasai.
It will comprise three lawyers from France, Canada and Australia, chief of Treaties and Legal Affairs Department Ittiporn Boonpracong, and legal officials who will act as secretaries.
"The special legal committee will go to the Hague a few days before the court hearing to meet the three foreign advisers and prepare a statement for Mr Virachai to deliver to the court.
"They will have only three or four hours to clarify the Cambodian complaints with the 15 ICJ committees," Mr Kasit said.
After the hearing, Bangkok and Phnom Penh will have at least four or five months to send written statements to the ICJ.
"We think the court will make a decision after the New Year as at least five of 15 ICJ committees' terms will end and there will be changes in their members," Mr Kasit said.
Meanwhile, the House committee on foreign affairs yesterday voiced an objection to the government's plan to face Cambodia in the ICJ.
Pheu Thai MP Torpong Chaiyasarn, head of the committee, said the government should instead opt for negotiations to resolve the dispute or let a new administration handle the issue.
Mr Kasit hit back at Mr Torpong for making the suggestion.
"The suggestion is misleading because the public may think the government has done something wrong, and, therefore, has to go to the ICJ. The committee should not talk about this issue to the media directly.
"If it has any questions, it should ask the government for clarifications first," Mr Kasit said.
In a statement issued today, the Press and Quick Reaction Unit of the Office of the Council of Ministers accused Thailand of threatening peace and stability in the region with its war-like stance, and damaging Preah Vihear.
"For that reason, all neighbouring countries together with the international community should make joint efforts to put an end to this dangerous policy so that we can enjoy a lasting peace and stability in Southeast Asia," it said.
"Thai leaders should know that the world of the 21st century needs a new vision, a vision of peace rooted in justice, a vision of a world bound together in intentional community dedicated to the well-being of all people.
"Peace rooted in justice requires the nurturing of a culture of peace in homes, communities, nations and across the world," the statement said.
34 comments:
ATTENTION !!!!
Abhisit and his army are preparing a final full scale war of invasion from all direction, especially from western region of Cambodia.
is any supper power behind this full scale of war ?
Cambodian army must prepare and be ready to cope with this new Thai army full scale invasion.
Here again. The history will repeat itself.
My message to Ahbushit: You are in a muddy losing battle.
Preah vihear is just so powerful that your siamese's face is folded in your ass.
Keep my work. it is the repetition!
They have tested Cambodian strenght and found out that Cambodian can't be defeated by the well equipped Thai army.
Thai had tried many kind of weapons even with F-16 sounded out the high amplified sound to scare Cambodian army.
All tactics are failed by the Thai!!
When will pity Cambodian people have trusted, unbiased and transparent source of information to read? KI is bias, DAP is bias and others are bias. KI seems to have tendency to support A CHOR SIEM now...
That is Abhashit to pull out talk with Khmer and at the International Court of Justice (ICJ) he will also lose. Why? because in 1962 the ICJ 3 against 1 for Cambodia (= 9 votes against 3 votes for Khmer)
All Khmers must prepare for big war against Thailand, it start very soon. Who start first, it is clear Thai.
"Don't forget that I met Hun Sen four times late last year, and then in February clashes erupted," Mr Abhisit said.
This quote clearly shows that the need to got a third party help solve the conflict is a must and unavoidable. Thai and Cambodian prime ministers can talk until the day they die, and nothing could be accomplished, period. Stop doing the stupid bilateral talks over and over again, please. We all know that it won't lead to any solution.
abhisit, keep flip flop again n again
he does not know, what to do or what to say..
Thai knew that HunSen is deploying of the Vietnamese troops to the Thai border for a full scale war. Thai troops is preparing to protect Thailand from the Vietnamese invasion.
HunSen called for cease fire is give more time the Vietnamese troops deployments to the Thai border.
Abdhisit is a new hitler of 21st century.
He will have the same way as Ben Laden.
All Khmer must understand that the Khmer-Thai war is simply ah Youn trick to turn away Khmer and the world attention from its strategy to swallow Cambodia. Have you seen while Youn Prime Minister came to meet Hun Sen to accelerate to finish installing the border posts; in the mean time, Preah Vihear clash happened. Each side accused each other whom the first start the fire. As the Khmer people, do you always believe that Thai started to fire first? Have you seen Thai start the first as what CPP government backed by Youn? Do you always believe CPP government what they told you? Is CPP a credible government? Ah Hun Sen said the war will be very long because it is Ah Hanoi plan. If they want to finish that war is very sample. They need simply to bring that case to the UN Security Council and insist them to result the case by the UN rather the ASEAN. The case come to ASEAN was the YOUN plan, it s happen because Ah Horn am Hong is a YOUN who manage the case for matching to Ah Youn plan. If the case resulted by the UN, Khmer will have the advantage on everything accordingly to the Paris Peace Accord Agreement on October 23th 1991. That accord will result the same time the Youn encroachment on Khmer land. That is why, ah Youn and ah Hun Sen Gang always wishes that ASEAN result that case. As we know that ah Hun Sen said that war will last many years, they know that in their plan is to create that war to turn Khmer attention away from what Ah You is swallowing/ suck Cambodia such as: Boeung Kak issue, Prey Lang, Border encroachment, Youn immigration, Oil drilling management, atrocity to Khmer people, create new village for Youn population and so many more. This war is also to help Youn economics to export their good to Cambodia when Thai border is unstable. More and more I believe Khmer is on the brink of REVOLUTION which is the only way to save Cambodia.
The judgement of Pras Vihear in favor of Cambodia was already done in 1962. Even Thai hire million more lawyers from foreign coutry, there will be useless. This time, the only job ICJ need to be done is interpretation of its 1962verdict, nothing more. Thai will be ashamed in public of the world community.
preah vihear issue isn't Khmer business, it is a youn business. The main thing is the kick hun sen out of the power. Khmer ought not to get hook with this issue, because it is a Youn trick. I agree with 5:35AM because it is already plan by CPP YOUN to have that war. hun Sen already said that this war will be long. This show how they (CPP youn) has plan to have that war.
Look what the Thai is going to do while the mother fucker hun sen was fucking with mr another motherfucker mr dung.
4:04AM,
have you remembered that Youn encroachment on khmer land for many thousand KM square. Don't to much exciting with Thai-Khmer conflict, it is a Youn strategy to make Khmer people to forget the Youn encroachment border. IT IS NOW, THEY ARE MOVING THE BORDER!
It is time for Cambodian government to sue Thailand for shelling over 50,000 of rockets inside Cambodia.
Khmer Koh Kong,
Nobody can live forever even a billionaire die too.
Why Hun Sen never think of protecting and saving his motherland from the Vietnamese expansion so his grandchildren will say my grandfather is a great Khmer leader instead of "MY GRANDFATHER HUN SEN IS A LOSER AND STUPID YUON SLAVE".
You're right, it get to be yuon who did all this.
there are a few principle words in the 1962 ICJ's declaration:
"Thailand is under an obligation to withdraw any military or police forces, or other guards or keepers, stationed by her at the TEMPLE, or in its VICINITY on Cambodian TERRITORY."
It meant the Temple, and all the lands/areas surrounding the TEMPLE, within Cambodia (as defined on the official and reconized map used at the rulling time) all belong to Cambodia.
Thai has been violated La Hague Court (ICJ) by infiltrated its soldiers and armies into the vicinity that been banned by ICJ..
Khmer Belgic,
6:39am is this temple is more important then the whole CAMBODIA now is swallow by the Vietnamese and the Vietnamese planned this Preah Vihear war to get an extra land from Thai.
Thai is better to back off and do something to accept. Otherwise, Thai will lose all or everything.
Thailand is not looking at the best thing possible before it becomes too late.
Thai has bigger land than Cambodia and have everything there. Why do you claim more land and temples belong to Khmer people. The reasons why it causes the Vietnamese troops stayed quiet in Cambodia and Laos. Then, Cambodia and Laos are gone and Thailand are facing the border crisis with Vietnam.
Thailand should leave Cambodia alone to solve the problems with CPP Yuon members in Phnom Penh, Hun Sen, and Vietnamese Communist bastards in Hanoi with the helps from the outsiders like the UN, International Communities, NATO, EUROPEANS, and other countries in the world. Therefore, Hun Sen and CPP Yuon members will be taken down from the power.
Thai people and leaders, please be smart and vigilant. You should know that Yuon/Vietnamese Communist troops. Don't mess around and don't be naive. I think PAD Yellows and Thai politicians are flip-flopped and not cautious.
All Khmer people want from Thailand stop claiming the temples and land belong to them. Thailand needs to know Cambodia are facing two big enemies, Communist Vietnam and Thailand. If Cambodia and Cambodian people are weak and lost because of Thailand war with Cambodia, then Cambodia will be under control of Cambodia completely and Thailand will face with Communist Vietnam more than ever for the next decades.
Right now, Cambodia is not controlled by Communist Vietnam yet, but Cambodia is going to emerged and become even stronger with the major or largest groups of Cambodian opposition party members and people along with the powerful people from powerful countries in the world.
Thailand should look or examine very carefully at Vietnamese Communist dirty and secret plan behinds the war between Cambodia and Thailand. Dirty secret Vietnamese communist agents will create the Killing Fields in the blind eyes of International Communities again as you already know the Killing Fields from 1975 to 1979.
Thailand needs to stop acting flip-flopped and naive because Vietnamese Communist masters are watching and trying to sneak in like snakes.
Khmer Yeurng
it is questionable as to siem's motive! if they have nothing to hide, why are they not allowed international observers, etc! see with international, people can tell who started it all and what happen, etc! so much of ah siem asshole's logic, really!
Correction for 7:10 AM
Thai is better to back off and do something to accept. Otherwise, Thai will lose all or everything.
Thailand is not looking at the best thing possible before it becomes too late.
Thai has bigger land than Cambodia and have everything there. Why do you claim more land and temples belong to Khmer people. The reasons why it causes the Vietnamese troops stayed quiet in Cambodia and Laos. Then, Cambodia and Laos are gone and Thailand are facing the border crisis with Vietnam.
Thailand should leave Cambodia alone to solve the problems with CPP Yuon members in Phnom Penh, Hun Sen, and Vietnamese Communist bastards in Hanoi with the helps from the outsiders like the UN, International Communities, NATO, EUROPEANS, and other countries in the world. Therefore, Hun Sen and CPP Yuon members will be taken down from the power.
Thai people and leaders, please be smart and vigilant. You should know that Yuon/Vietnamese Communist troops. Don't mess around and don't be naive. I think PAD Yellows and Thai politicians are flip-flopped and not cautious.
All Khmer people want from Thailand stop claiming the temples and land belong to them. Thailand needs to know Cambodia are facing two big enemies, Communist Vietnam and Thailand. If Cambodia and Cambodian people are weak and lost because of Thailand war with Cambodia, then Cambodia will be under control of **VIETNAM** completely and Thailand will face with Communist Vietnam more than ever for the next decades.
Right now, Cambodia is not controlled by Communist Vietnam yet, but Cambodia is going to emerged and become even stronger with the major or largest groups of Cambodian opposition party members and people along with the powerful people from powerful countries in the world.
Thailand should look or examine very carefully at Vietnamese Communist dirty and secret plan behinds the war between Cambodia and Thailand. Dirty secret Vietnamese communist agents will create the Killing Fields in the blind eyes of International Communities again as you already know the Killing Fields from 1975 to 1979.
Thailand needs to stop acting flip-flopped and naive because Vietnamese Communist masters are watching and trying to sneak in like snakes.
Khmer Yeurng
Yes, Thai needed to accept the REALITY which we (Cambodian) has a bitter history these passed centuries. Our lands has been taken by Thai to the WEST and NORTH and Vietnam took our lands on the EAST and the SOUTH, this bitter has been so hurt that we lost our lands without a fight to Vietnam due to the FRENCH that illegally gave to them. On the West we traded our Battambang, Siem Reap with you (THAI) of TRAT, Chantha Buri and many islands in the Gulf of Siam.
Thai is really need to accept the REALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6:46 AM asked:
"6:39am is this temple is more important then the whole CAMBODIA now is swallow by the Vietnamese and the Vietnamese planned this Preah Vihear war to get an extra land from Thai."
The comment at 6:39 AM was in reference to the ICJ's decision only, particularly, the definition of 'vicinity.'
Both cold invasion and naked agressation are bad - they are both invasion. At the moment, many lives are at peils due to the employment of military forces around the subject of Preah Vihear.
Again and again,
Be careful more than ever before it is too late. Don't be naive and don't play too much of blame games.
Just watch out closely to Vietnamese secret agents are sneaking it quietly. Thailand should do something to help Cambodian or Khmer people. Stop playing the dirty politics with Cambodia. Let's help each other.
Thai people and politicians do not know that Cambodian or Khmer people are very peaceful, but they (Thai) think that Communist Vietnamese people and politicians are very peaceful.
Thai people, leaders or politicians need to think very careful before Communist Vietnamese bastards quietly sneaking in from Cambodia to Thailand in the blind eyes of the UN and International Communities as well as the U.S.
Thailand should work and cooperate with Cambodia closely and don't let Communist Vietnam take the opportunity to take the weakness of both countries, Cambodia and Thailand.
Khmer Yeurng!
....also, if siams are honest and concerned about the vietnamese expansion goal, they should acknowledge legally khmer territory, AND assist Cambodia in every possible way to have all neighboring countries and other signatories to legally enforce the Paris Peace Accord.
At this time, siams motive is very suspicious. Both of these two neighbors have not been honest with Cambodia, and both stand to gain from a weak Cambodia.
Yes, 7:36 AM know that as well. Thailand should be more vigilant and all the problems coming for Thai flip-flipped politicians who are naive without looking further at the another sides of secret Vietnamese people. Cambodian or Khmer people are struggling to kick the CPP Yuan members and Hun Sen who are dogs of Communist Vietnamese masters.
Otherwise, Thailand will face the severe problems with Communist Vietnam without Cambodia. Cambodia is getting better and stronger with the helps from the UN, International Communities, the people from powerful countries around the world. Cambodia is not too late from illegal operation from Communist Vietnamese masters who order Hun Sen and CPP Yuan members what to do to destroy Cambodia and Cambodian or Khmer people. Vietnamese/Yuan Communist leaders of Hanoi, CPP Yuan members in Phnom Penh and Hun Sen (including his Yuan wife Bun Rany and his family members) will face the bigger problems from the UN or the International Communities, NATO, EU or the U.S. Vietnamese communist masters can not hide their secret plans to take more land from Cambodia any more. Vietnamese Communist Masters, CPP Yuan members and Hun Sen are going to be under covered in the world.
Thailand needs to stop their flip-flopped and hypocrite attitudes and action.
Communist youn vietcong and its puppet CPP HunVietCong are the main problem in ASEAN
3:44 AM
US is behind Thailand and China is behind Cambodia. Vietnam as usual is sleeping with both sides. The Vietnamese have a reputation of using the fight between the superpowers to gain their expansionism in Cambodia. They did that before during cold war.
The US slept with China while they still fought each other, Kissinger told China to take South Vietnam, then the Vietnamese leaders went to Soviet for helps, and Soviet determined to take Laos and Cambodia that exactly the Vietnamese got South Vietnam before China did, and Soviet now Russia continues to support Vietnam to take Indochina and this is a time Vietnam will take this big opportunity to send its army into Cambodia. This is another Vietnamese army intervention in Cambodia. First and second Viet army interventions Cambodia lost half of the Kingdom to the Nguyen.
Russia wants to influence SEA, China wants the same and so does the US. Today India and Japan work with Vietnam.
Hahahaha!
Thailand has no Thai lawyer that why Thailand need to employ lawyer from Fr,Canada,Australia. Shame on Thailand. All the Universities in Thailand are crooking and sex factory. they tough how to do better sex that all. hahahahaha
The game must go, Cambodia sound ready for this game.
For the Khmer or Cambodian is very important to be unit. It is part of our responsible to sacrifice for our country and to protect our Khmer heritages.
We will well coming all Khmer descent around the world to support our people and the state of Cambodia. Cambodia is our country of our great ancestor, gave us our great identity. Cambodia is alway a peace, nice and friendly place of the world. We will not let someone takes this small piece away from us.
WELL, If Thais are not Thief, whey should they be afraid of the police???
No lives would have been lost if international forces were there or if the matters are brought to the ICJ?
Stop blinding the public, Mr. Abhisit Vejjajiva.
10:12 AM
Are you really a Vietnamese to say this step?
We Khmer people know all the master minds coming from Vietnamese communists.
Khmer heroes will plan the secret destroy Vietnamese without being afraid to die. Just like Al Qaeda. You will never know, Vietnamese people. We will plan to kill you (Yuou/Vietnamese) one of these days as Khmer heroes know the secret plans just like Vietnamese did in the killing fields and hiding among Khmer society?
Good luck, Communist Vietnamese people and leader? There is no guarantee for Communist Vietnamese people and leaders!
The more Khmer suffer from thieves and killers of Communist Vietnamese (and Thai), the more Khmer become very dangerous to Vietnamese and Thai. Khmer heroes will not be afraid to die to destroy Vietnamese masters and people.
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