Thursday, July 21, 2011

ICJ decision gives the same treatment to the thief and the owner: Sam Rainsy

20 July 2011
By S. Botum
The Free Press Magazine
Translated from Khmer by Soch
Click here to read the original article in Khmer

Contrary to the government’s view which considers the ICJ order as being just and fair, on Wednesday 20 July, Cambodia’s opposition leader Sam Rainsy said that the ICJ’s decision is extremely unfair to Cambodia. Sam Rainsy compared the situation to the ICJ giving the same treatment to the thief and to the owner.

In a live interview from Paris on the Candle Right radio, Sam Rainsy indicated: “I am very disappointed. This decision is not fair at all. This decision gives the same treatment to the thief and to the owner.” Sam Rainsy indicated that Cambodian holds the right to Preah Vihear temple. Furthermore, the temple’s ownership was clearly recognized by the International Court of Justice in 1962, but now, the ICJ gives equal treatment to the owner and to the thief.

Sam Rainsy explained: “It’s like a thief wanting to take over somebody else’s house, the house owner takes the case to court, but the court turned around and decided that both the owner and the thief must vacate the house in order to give time to the court to decide whom it will hand out the house to.


The ICJ temporary decision was issued on 18 July 2011, it ordered the Cambodian and Thai governments to remove their troops out of Preah Vihear temple, i.e. the disputed zone which is now considered as a demilitarized zone.

The ICJ decision came under criticisms from some Cambodian quarters as it called the area a disputed zone, whereas in reality, it is an area where the Thai government brought in their troops to aggress Cambodia since 15 July 2008 up until now.

Nevertheless, the Cambodian government agreed to the ICJ decision and it indicated that the decision is in agreement with what Cambodia wants. Hor 5 Hong, the Cambodian minister of Foreign Affairs, declared this morning that this decision will bring peace to the temple area.

However, the opposition indicated that the ICJ is the sole option adopted by the ruling party. Sam Rainsy indicated Cambodian territories were not just lost along the western border alone, but the loss of territories along the eastern border could be even larger. According to Sam Rainsy, the most efficient and unique way to resolve this issue is to bring it up to the council members of the 1991 Paris Peace agreements on Cambodia, however, the current regime gives precedence to the Yuon and it is afraid to affect the Yuon interest.

34 comments:

Anonymous said...

There is no doubt that Sam Rainsy had moved from a Member of Cambodian Parliament to a fugitive and now became a moron not knowing what is right or wrong? All he tries to do is, against the government no matter what.

It is a stupid comparison that the ICJ's ruling on provisional measures granted the same treatment to a thief and the owner. Although, both countries must withdraw their troops from demilitarized zone but all Cambodian civilians have free access to Preah Vihear temple and Cambodia is still in charge the temple. This ruling will bring the peace to the temple and surrounding area. Why a moron Sam Rainsy can't see it?

Anonymous said...

Sam Rainsy is trying to explain the most effective measure to protect Cambodia's sovereignty and teritorial integrity by calling for the full implementation of the 1991 Paris Peace Agreements on Cambodia.

If the Cambodian Government is serious about protecting its teritorial integrity fully, then the eastern part of Cambodia's border must also be protected.

Anonymous said...

6:00pm,

you're a moron!
Mr sam rainsy is a better representative for khmer than hoonxen and you altogether.

Why he can't stand against this decision made by the ICJ? according to the maps, the "disputed" area is khmer! (period).

again, you're a moron for not noticing that. MORON 6:00 PM, wake up.

Anonymous said...

បុរសកម្សត់ សម រង្សីគួរតែដឹងខ្លួនហើយថា
ពេលវេលានេះគឺមានតែមូ សុខហួរទេដែល
អាចនាំអោយបក្សរបស់ខ្លួនទៅរកជ័យជំនះ
បាន ។

Anonymous said...

Sam Rainsy is an extremist and an idiot. The man is so mad and twisted. He is not fit to lead SRP any more. So I suggest you retire in peace in France and let someone else lead your party.

Anonymous said...

Long live Mr Sam Rainsy! WE WILL SACRIFY OURSELF to die in protecting you because you are the true Khmer Patriot unlike Hun Sen goverment CPP they are doing anything to keep them in power even they have to give all Cambodia to Thai and Viet.

Long live Mr Sam Rainsy!

Anonymous said...

Cambodia is the rightful owner of Preah Vihear temple and there has been a clear recognition from the ICJ in 1962. No one says the contrary and actually this is the real cause of the war so far. We wouldn’t fight for a land that doesn’t belong to us. Yes, even Thailand repeated several time that they recognized the 1992 ICJ ruling and they always say so that Cambodia owns the Preah Vihear temple. But the war which engulfed that region was not originated from the temple itself, but the vicinities, or the land around the temple claimed by both countries, Cambodia and Thailand. Cambodia is the rightful owner of Preah Vihear temple and there has been a clear recognition from the ICJ in 1962. No one says the contrary and actually this is the real cause of the war so far. We wouldn’t fight for a land that doesn’t belong to us. Yes, even Thailand repeated several time that they recognized the 1992 ICJ ruling and they always say so that Cambodia owns the Preah Vihear temple. Some argued that in 1962 the ICJ ordered Thailand to withdraw troops and polices from the Preah Vihear Temple and the temple's vicinities. The problem is that Thailand looked at different map and claimed the 4.6 skm. The reason why there was war so far. The Thais didn't use the 1904-1907 map and withdrawn its army. That is why we go back to the ICJ for interpretation of the 1962 ruling. But the war which engulfed that region was not originated from the temple itself, but the vicinities, or the land around the temple claimed by both countries, Cambodia and Thailand. People who live on both sides of the border need to live without fears of being killed or seeking refuges in other places far from their own villages. Living in peace is in fact a basic human right. More than that, if the ICJ were to order only Thailand to unilaterally withdraw its army from those vicinities of the temple that measure could be interpreted as de facto recognition of Cambodia’s ownership of the land surrounding the temple. In that case, there would be no need of further ruling or interpretation of the 1962 verdict as requested by Cambodia. That may not need the provisional demilitarized zone, or the ASEAN observers at the place, etc. Thailand may see it as a blame the ICJ squarely put on them in this war. I think that the 17 international judges of the ICJ are a lot wiser than Mr. Sam Rainsy and a lot more knowledgeable than the leader of the opposition’s party in protecting the civilians along the border. Please be a bit more patient, with the final ruling in a few months from now, Cambodia will be able to recover everything, the temple and the land around it and a border of peace and stability. Rushing to react negatively to the ruling is a mistake from the opposition!

Anonymous said...

Koh Tral Island must not be forgotten

By Ms. Rattana Keo

Why do Koh Tral Island, known in Vietnam as Phu Quoc, a sea and land area covering proximately over 30,000 km2 [Note: the actual land size of Koh Tral itself is 574 square kilometres (222 sq miles)] have been lost to Vietnam by whose treaty? Why don’t Cambodia government be transparent and explain to Cambodia army at front line and the whole nation about this? Why don't they include this into education system? Why?

Cambodian armies are fighting at front line for 4.6 km2 on the Thai border and what's about over 30,000km2 of Cambodia to Vietnam. Nobody dare to talk about it! Why? Cambodian armies you are decide the fate of your nation, Cambodian army as well as Cambodian people must rethink about this again and again. Is it fair?

Koh Tral Island, the sea and land area of over 30,000 square kilometres have been lost to Vietnam by the 1979 to 1985 treaties. The Cambodian army at front line as well as all Cambodian people must rethink again about these issues. Are Cambodian army fighting to protect the Cambodia Nation or protecting a very small group that own big lands, big properties or only protecting a small group but disguising as protecting the Khmer nation?

The Cambodian army at front lines suffer under rain, wind, bullets, bombs, lack of foods, lack of nutrition and their families have no health care assistance, no securities after they died but a very small group eat well, sleep well, sleep in first class hotel with air conditioning system with message from young girls, have first class medical care from oversea medical treatments, they are billionaires, millionaires who sell out the country to be rich and make the Cambodian people suffer everyday.

Who signed the treaty 1979-1985 that resulted in the loss over 30,000 km2 of Cambodia??? Why they are not being transparent and brave enough to inform all Cambodians and Cambodian army at front line about these issues? Why don't they include Koh Tral (Koh Tral size is bigger than the whole Phom Phen and bigger than Singapore [Note: Singapore's present land size is 704 km2 (271.8 sq mi)]) with heap of great natural resources, in the Cambodian education system?

Look at Hun Sen's families, relatives and friends- they are billionaires, millionaires. Where did they get the money from when we all just got out of war with empty hands [in 1979]? Hun Sen always say in his speeches that Cambodia had just risen up from the ashes of war, just got up from Year Zero with empty hands and how come they are billionaires, millionaires but 90% of innocent Cambodian people are so poor and struggling with their livelihood every day?

Smart Khmer girl, President Ms. Rattana Keo,

Anonymous said...

We are the ex khmer rouge soldiers and most of poor Cambodian people that are living at the country side and the cities are willing to sacrify ourself in protecting you and our Nation in fighting agianst Hun Sen goverment regime that sell out Cambodia and give all Cambodia area to Vietnam and Thailand.

We are not scare of Hun Sen 5000 bodyguards or Vietcog army at all cost. We have enough of rubbish Hun Sen goverment in sell out our country and make us suffer.

Long Live Mr Sam Rainsy! When you ready please give us the signal we will rise up our patriot army around the country.

We keep fighting until we win!

Long Live Mr Sam Rainsy!

Anonymous said...

Hi guys, what time is it now? Euh..., you know, it depends on your interpretation!

Anonymous said...

We need him now. Without him, Cambodia, at least "our Cambodia" stops to exist. So he is wanted now!

Anonymous said...

Long Live Mr. Sam Rainsy!

We love you Mr Sam Rainsy!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I am not sure if the all the Khmer Krom people want to be part of Cambodia if they can regain their independence from Vietnam.

I am pretty sure the Khmers in Thailand would not want to be part of Cambodia.

They have a much better life where they are right now.

12:26 PM

Speculating and assuming had never been a good scenario. It take a Khmer Krom and a Khmer Ler(Surin) to know who they R.

Where ever U lived go around and get to know these two group of Khmers u'll be surprise my friend. Now if U ask the ignorants of there ancester and Khmer history well U know what U gonna get. My sugestion is do more research about them bfor u assume. Bcause if U assume U make an ass of U and me= ass-u-me.

Anonymous said...

Sam Rainsy is right! ICJ's ruling is not fair the owner...

Anonymous said...

Mr. Sam Rainsy is Righ! ICJ's ruling is not fair to Cambodia..

Anonymous said...

I don't care about who give Cambodia lands to anyone. I just want to eat, drink and enjoy life. Sorry guys won't join any revolution or fight with anyone. I suffer enough so I just want to enjoy life as much as I can.

Good luck with your patriot thing!

Anonymous said...

Well, your are full of spirit and brave.Hopely,most of other fellowing Cambodian feeling the same thing as your.IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT ALL CAMBODIAN RISE UP AND DEFENSED OUR COUNTRY. THE WILL AND THE RIGHT OF OUR PEOPLE.WE CAN NOT AFFORD ANOTHER FOUR YEARS OF THIS!!SO UNITE
AND FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM !!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

true, siem should get nothing in return! we have to hear the final court ruling to see whether siem can learn to live with it or not! it's like siem thugs come to phnom penh and demand they want half of phnom penh and the cambodia can take the other half, and the court will decide whether to give the other half of phnom penh to siem thugs, doesn't make sense to khmer people at all, really! the question is simple, who built preah vihear temple, khmer or siem?, what international treaty were out there in regards to the internationally recognized borderline at preah vihear vicinity, siem unilateral map or the 1907 map? when the court should at this historical facts and existing law, siem has has no saying in any of this, really! end of story! no talking, no negotiation, no sharing, so unnecessary dealing with siem wanting to rob from cambodia, really!

Anonymous said...

sam rainsy's opinion is personal, not reflective of gov't nor cambodia as a whole, ok, keep that in mind! same with any one opinion on this blog, just a forum or blog, not official, ok!

Anonymous said...

"We are the ex khmer rouge soldiers??? and most of poor Cambodian people that are living at the country side and the cities are willing to sacrify ourself in protecting..." How can this guy represents so many people? He pretends that Rainsy will be better than Pol Pot in fighting Vietnam. Its hard to believe. Anyway, go ahead guy. Problems are after this "new war" with Rainsy replacing Pol Pot, who will come to chase Vietnames to save Cambodia this time? Cambodia, second Year Zero? We will need to set up second KR Tribunal gain!

Anonymous said...

Long Live Mr Sam Rainsy!

We are Cambodian people must rise up as one together we will win the curruption, slave Vietnam goverment CPP Hun Sen.

This traitor goverment cut Cambodia to Vietnam and Cut Cambodia to Thailand as long as CPP HUn SEn goverment remain Cambodian people will be endlessly live in suffering like today.

Get Up! Get Up all Cambodian people we are fighting together as one to free our Nation and Cambodia. Nato, UN will be back up us!

Long Live Sam Rainsy! TRaitor CPP Hun SEn!

Anonymous said...

10:57 PM

You twisted CPP Youn slave,

Long live Sam Rainsy, Long live real democracy and freedom in Cambodia! Together we must fight Vietnam slave regime.

Anonymous said...

Go!Go!Go! Sam Rainsy the Khmer real patriot hero!

Anonymous said...

Congratulations Mr. Rainsy. The Yellow Shirts agree with you, "Yellow Shirts reject World Court ruling on Thai-Cambodian border dispute"!. Now you have allies in Bangkok now!

Anonymous said...

Sam Rainsy is right about that.
Sam Rainsy is a new Khmer hero.
Sam Rainsy is truly a leader.
Sam Rainsy is a good example for younger generation to love and protect the country.
Sam rainsy is who we need for our country.
Lets vote for Sam Rainsy!
Go Sam Rainsy, go!
Long life, Sam Rainsy.

Anonymous said...

Let's rise up together as one to fight Vietnam Slave Goverment out of Cambodia.

We are keep fighting and we will win the CPP Vietnam slave goverment.

Ms R Keo,

Anonymous said...

The Khmer real Hero in real life is Mr Sam Rainsy!

The true batman is Sam Rainsy!

Mr Sam Rainsy is a true hero, he is a Superman Return to save All Cambodian people and Khmer Nation!

Long live Sam Rainsy,

Anonymous said...

sam rainsy is no different for stupid pol pot! it is a path to destruction, don't do it! rule of law is way better in cambodia!

Anonymous said...

God bliss Mr Sam Rainsy in fighting all evils and demonds.

Anonymous said...

All Cambodian must rise up as one together we will win the Vietnam slave goverment to free our nation from CPP traitors!

Fear is no longer our solution! Must fight for freedom and democracy in Cambodia.

Rise Up together as one and we will fight untill we win. Nato, UN, USA will help us.

Anonymous said...

to fight against ignorance and evil, i suggest stop isolating cambodia, ok! isolating cambodia make it stupid, ok! then you wonder why they can do so stupid, from isolation too long, ok!

Anonymous said...

លោក សម រង្សី នាំមុខពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរធ្វើការបៈបោរទូរទាំងប្រទេសឱយបានមុនឆ្នាំ២០១៣ខាងមុខនេះ! ឈប់បោះឆ្នោតទៅគឺមិនឈ្នៈអាខ្វាក់ ហ៊ុន សែនទេ?
ដើម្បីទម្លាក់អាខ្វាក់ចេញពីកៅអី គឺមានតែអំណាចពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរនិងការប្តឹងទៅអន្តរជាតិឱយគេសើររើរសន្ធិសញ្ញាទីក្រុងប៉ារីសថ្ងៃ២៣តុលាឆ្នាម១៩៩១ឡើងមកវិញ។

Anonymous said...

Who real Hun Sen is?
He is a man without feeling of mercy.
He is a man without feeling of
deference of politeness.
He is a man without shame and dislike.
He is a man without feeling right and wrong.
Then he is a man who is staying in
power for so long and becoming a
dictator.

Anonymous said...

we love U Mr. RAINGSY, ONY YOUN rag black teeth sperms hun sen c Pee Pee dun like U.