Hor Nam Hong (L) and Sam Rainsy (R)Click here to read The Cambodia Daily article published in 2000 where eyewitnesses discussed about
Hor Nam Hong's role at the Boeung Trabek jail
Hor Nam Hong's role at the Boeung Trabek jail
Wednesday, April 30, 2008
Kampuchea Thmei newspaper
Translated from Khmer by Socheata
Opposition leader Sam Rainsy said that he has no confidence in the Phnom Penh municipal court, because, in the past, this court was criticized as being unfair. Therefore for the lawsuit brought against him by vice-prime minister Hor Nam Hong, Sam Rainsy wants the KR Tribunal to make a decision in this affair involving the Khmer Rouge regime. Sam Rainsy made this declaration to reporters at the Phnom Penh International Airport at his arrival in the morning of 29 April.
The Phnom Penh municipal court is speeding up Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit against Sam Rainsy for “defamation and diffusion of false information” and it issued a summon for Ka Savuth, Hor Nam Hong’s defense lawyer, to come to the court to clarify his lawsuit case in the near future. Meanwhile, Sam Rainsy also arrived back in Cambodia, and he claimed that he would like the KR tribunal to take up Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit, and that he is ready to face Hor Nam Hong in court.
Sam Rainsy told reporters in the morning of 29 April that what he said, he has proofs and witnesses, and that he was only repeating what King-Father Norodom Sihanouk said.
Sam Rainsy added: “Whatever I said, I have my basis and witnesses, and all what I was talking about, I am repeating what Samdech Preah Norodom Sihanouk was saying.” Sam Rainsy indicated that: “When the (former) king was sued by Hor Nam Hong in France, about 18-year ago, I, Sam Rainsy, helped King Norodom Sihanouk find a lawyer, I negotiated with the lawyer to prepare for Mr. Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit in front of the French tribunal.”
Even though the first instance tribunal handed a defeat to King-Father, Sam Rainsy indicated that if the case was brought to appeal, King-Father would have won the case because at the first instance tribunal, no witnesses were found, but now, there are a lot of witnesses who knew what Hor Nam Hong did during that era.
Sam Rainsy told reporters that regarding Hor Nam Hong’s desire to have him apologize, he cannot apologize, and that, right now, he has prepared himself to face this lawsuit.
In the interview with reporters, Sam Rainsy did not show any of the proofs he received from overseas to face Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit, besides saying that “if I am summoned to the court, then Samdech Preah Norodom Sihanouk must go there with Sam Rainsy, because I only repeated what SamDech Preah Norodom Sihanouk said only.”
At the same time, Sam Rainsy indicated that the issues which Hor Nam Hong used to sue him, took place under the KR regime, therefore the KR Tribunal should have jurisdiction over this lawsuit case, however, if the Phnom Penh municipal court is taking up this case instead, then he cannot accept it.
A source from the Phnom Penh municipal court indicated that Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit against Sam Rainsy is moving forward, and the court issued a summon for Ka Savuth, Hor Nam Hong’s lawyer, to come to the court and clarify the lawsuit case on 05 May 2008. According to the topic of the lawsuit, Sam Rainsy could face jail sentence and lose the opportunity to participate in the upcoming 27 July 2008 election, should the court find him guilty. The same source indicated that, after Ka Savuth’s clarification, it will be Sam Rainsy’s turn.
The Phnom Penh municipal court is speeding up Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit against Sam Rainsy for “defamation and diffusion of false information” and it issued a summon for Ka Savuth, Hor Nam Hong’s defense lawyer, to come to the court to clarify his lawsuit case in the near future. Meanwhile, Sam Rainsy also arrived back in Cambodia, and he claimed that he would like the KR tribunal to take up Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit, and that he is ready to face Hor Nam Hong in court.
Sam Rainsy told reporters in the morning of 29 April that what he said, he has proofs and witnesses, and that he was only repeating what King-Father Norodom Sihanouk said.
Sam Rainsy added: “Whatever I said, I have my basis and witnesses, and all what I was talking about, I am repeating what Samdech Preah Norodom Sihanouk was saying.” Sam Rainsy indicated that: “When the (former) king was sued by Hor Nam Hong in France, about 18-year ago, I, Sam Rainsy, helped King Norodom Sihanouk find a lawyer, I negotiated with the lawyer to prepare for Mr. Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit in front of the French tribunal.”
Even though the first instance tribunal handed a defeat to King-Father, Sam Rainsy indicated that if the case was brought to appeal, King-Father would have won the case because at the first instance tribunal, no witnesses were found, but now, there are a lot of witnesses who knew what Hor Nam Hong did during that era.
Sam Rainsy told reporters that regarding Hor Nam Hong’s desire to have him apologize, he cannot apologize, and that, right now, he has prepared himself to face this lawsuit.
In the interview with reporters, Sam Rainsy did not show any of the proofs he received from overseas to face Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit, besides saying that “if I am summoned to the court, then Samdech Preah Norodom Sihanouk must go there with Sam Rainsy, because I only repeated what SamDech Preah Norodom Sihanouk said only.”
At the same time, Sam Rainsy indicated that the issues which Hor Nam Hong used to sue him, took place under the KR regime, therefore the KR Tribunal should have jurisdiction over this lawsuit case, however, if the Phnom Penh municipal court is taking up this case instead, then he cannot accept it.
A source from the Phnom Penh municipal court indicated that Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit against Sam Rainsy is moving forward, and the court issued a summon for Ka Savuth, Hor Nam Hong’s lawyer, to come to the court and clarify the lawsuit case on 05 May 2008. According to the topic of the lawsuit, Sam Rainsy could face jail sentence and lose the opportunity to participate in the upcoming 27 July 2008 election, should the court find him guilty. The same source indicated that, after Ka Savuth’s clarification, it will be Sam Rainsy’s turn.
36 comments:
Now that is so fair! Since Cambodia has KR Tribunal already and why not take on AH HOR NAM HONG lawsuit because after it is dealing with the KR issue!
More twist and turn to come!
Nope, Khmer court and ECCC have different responsibility. You can't file suit against people with the ECCC. That is like applying for passport with the ministry of agriculture. The ECCC purpose is to only prosecute people that they think is guilty of committing crime against humanity under the Khmer Rouge. They are not budgeted for anything else.
As for Sam Rainsy, he must go through the Khmer Court for his defense, and he may have the court to summon Sihanouk and the ECCC personnel as his expert witness for his defense if he wishes. That is the rule.
One must stop the Vietcong Suicidal Commando such as the one @3:09 PM before he blows himself up to pieces!!!
3:09 pm sound exactly like one of ah kwack orang outang !!!!!!
When he said "that is the rule" it means ah kwack 's rules ,he rules everything from top to bottom .As we all know ,the Cambodian court is THE RUBBER STAMP for his cpp and that is the FACT.
May lightning strikes ah kwack fore head at noon time
Wrong, that's universal rule for the entire planet, not just Cambodia.
Gentleman
Prison officers and their in charge, are the direct torturers and killers in KR period. And that where ECCC should look at to finding details of how atroscity took place.
Duch was a chief of Tuol Slaeng and committed crimes against humanity. What's about Hor Nam Hong?. I strongly believe that the prison system of same region, was closely connected.
Wondering how the minister of four regimes survived through KR, but many others did not?.
People should sign petition and request for ECCC to follow up, or file a complain, so that victims and their relatives can be in peace.
Neang SA
That`s time we (all Khmers) must say the truth who was/is the bad people and who was/is a good people for our nation. We must search for who was the "ANGKA", this ANGKA had a lot of mumbers, not only Pol Pot, Khiev Samphan, Eng Sary,......By this Angka I was alone in ages fo 7 since 1976 in the Killing Fields because my lovely parents and two brothers and one sister were killed by those "ANGKA". Between 17.04.1975- 19.04.1979 I was "Molethan Thmey" people, it means that every day I was waiting for die like the other Cambodian who were pushed up from Phnom Penh, in April 1975. Untill the day for my die I will never forget those BABARES. Where is the real justice for Khmer People?
View of farmer
Oh Zip it, 7:03. Are you telling us that the ECCC and thousands of witnesses had overlooked some prisons up until now?
stop bullshiting mii ka'thort 300 bl gorilla. If you have too free time, go play with your PC. Besides, Cambodian issues have nothing to do with you. So shut up mii srokey!!
How many human beings are brave enough to accept the truth as Plato did? None! a king, a well-educated, a
Buhhdist monk, a layman, an illitterate, a man, or a woman, by acting foolishy, can be a complete fool.
hi ho namm hung,say the truth that you are khmer kraham cha-au,and the people of the khmer will have a very warm pity on you guy.
3:09
You are absolutely correct. The ECCC was instituted to try people who committed crimes against humanity during the Pol Pot era. If Hor Nam Hong and Keat Chhun were guilty of those crimes then the ECCC would have jurisdiction. At this time those two people have not been named in any indictment nor has the ECCC indicated that both men will be called before the ECCC.
Since Sam Rainsy saw fit to repeat Sihanouk's words he subjected himself to the same repercussions that Sihanouk faced, namely a lawsuit. Since this is Cambodia only a Cambodian court has jurisdiction to apply Cambodian law if a plaintiff files a complaint in that venue, no matter whether they are believed to be partial. An argument that Sihanouk might have won the appeal is worth nothing, as it is purely hypothetical. That report in the Cambodia Daily is full of innuendo and very short of legally substantive evidence. Sam Rainsy is in hot waters again because he can't keep his mouth shut when he knows full well that some things need to be treated very carefully. But he has a tendency to run off his mouth with presenting any evidence. He is treading on thin ice.
It should read '..without presenting...'
Ah Hor Nam Hong is ah Chief of Boeng Trabaek prison in Phnom Penh during Khmer Rouge regime. We have proofs for those. Take ah Hor Nam hong to jail in KR tribunal.
Opposition always point out that members of Hun Sen govt. were also former KR commrades, it was not sued, why now? why Hor Nam Hong decides to do so now? election year?
Hun Sen, Chea Sim, Heng Samrin, and many others were former KR, the whole world know that.
Why bother through some godamn courts like those hun sen parasites suggested above, no brainer!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chan,
My belolved friends!
This is Hun SenVarman's and CPP's world,
Know your enemy and know yourself..
អាហោ ណាំហុង ថា ឈឺចាប់ណាស់ ដែលថា អាហោ ណាំហុង ជាមេគុកបឹងត្របែក ក្នុងសម័យខ្មែរក្រហម ប៉ុន្តែសូមជំរាប អាហោ ណាំហុងថា អ្នកដែលឈឺចាប់ជាងអាហោណាំហុង ទៅទៀតនោះ គឺប្រជាពលរដ្ឋខ្មែរដែលមានបងប្អូន ត្រូវអាហោ ណាំហុង បញ្ជាយកទៅសំលាប់ នៅគុកត្របែក រាប់មិនអស់។ អាហោ ណាំហុង សមចូលគុក ដោយតុលាការខ្មែរក្រហមហើយ។
ah Hor Nam Hong must be in jail in KR tribunal because ah Hor Nam Hong is the chief of Boeng Tra Baek prison.
President of SRP chose to have hot potatoes on hand while Cambodians are preparing to go to the polls. Getting caught tangled with PP tribunal is what he is choosing. Otherwise, he would just leave the matters to Khmer Rouge Tribunal as he is convinced of the crimes committed by Keat Chhon and Hor Nam Hong. Personal attacks are not the high road for honest politicians. Why don't you attacking the government policies instead as you allways know to do very well? People powerty, corruptions, foreign policy ... etc? We expect you to win the election in the up coming polls. You do not have the right to deceive us, because you are the leader and our hope!
among Gang there are one or two good and kind but this case we selected who was a killer among Cpp party that master leak to kill .
khmer people always repeat each other that KR was killer by CPP accuser now we just suspect who was hiding in CPP party .
Socheata;
Congratulation! at last you have taken time to go through your translation, got it right before posting.
===================================
This is what a so called political correctness is going wrong.
Meanwhile, Sam Rainsy also arrived back in Cambodia, and he claimed that he would like the KR tribunal to take up Hor Nam Hong’s lawsuit.
SR himself should know better that this is purely a "Civil case" brought against him by another person who felt that such remark was a direct insulted and defammed. If SR suggested that KR trial court shalll handle the case then he is really off his mark.
what I was talking about, I am repeating what Samdech Preah Norodom Sihanouk was saying.
In his speech to public at the time, he failed to quote "it's a repaeting of the former king saying".
Personally, don't think this case will go further at least just for now due to many factors:-
a] The plaintif has repeatedly asked for an apology and if SR agreed to do so the lawsuit will be out from the court.
b] There is no reaction or any suggestion of invovlment from the top man himself to protect his subordinate.
c] CPP as whole will not take risk to create any unplesant environment leading to the general election [just for this issue, and would be different if remark is made after the election].
For now, SR himself shall not bet on making such a indirect remark for political agin but instead shall concentrate on his psrty constructive policies in order to get the best out from voters.
Sam Rainsy and his clan doesn't know crap about law. How the hell does one suit the other through the ECCC. The SRP should be disqualified from the election. They are fake. They only wasted our poor tax payer money.
And you Viet troller pimp/parasite @5:08 can go home to Hanoi tail between you legs now. It's over for you Viet dog!
The world knows you Viet's true color already!
And please do not commit suicide on Cambodian's land, please?
To 5:08AM
Are you saying that AH HUN SEN has a system to collect tax from corrupted Cambodian officials?
Hey! Before you bullshit and you better examine the state coffer first okay! AH HUN SEN government steals million and million of tax money through their Vietcong corrupted middlemen!
I don't give a fuck what the ECCC can do in this case because no Cambodian people can isolate the Khmer Rouge issue from the non-Khmer Rouge issue!
Fool you need to understand that AH HOR NAM HONG issue is one of the Khmer Rouge issue which he was apart of and there is nothing in the world that can change that! Since AH HOR NAM HONG was part of the Khmer Rouge leadership at Boeung Trabek Prison and he has some explanations to do to the ECCC!
6:19, no one on this planet got any mean to collect taxes from corrupted people, alright?
And if Hor Nam Hong due the ECCC any explanation, they will get it from him. what is the big deal?
The big deal 6:30AM?
The big deal is you being a freaking suicidal Vietcong commando that keeps bullshitting recklessy, aimlessly on Khmer blog until you blow yourself up to pieces. We want to make sure that you don't take any Cambodian with you...Got that you Viet trash?
Go home Viet, Go home!
Hey, who liberated Cambodia from Pol Pot?
Go home Viet, Go home, you ain't no liberator.
The Viet commy engineered the Killing Field, killed, killed and took over...Cambodia
That's what the Viet is all about!
The world sees the Viet true color ALREADY!
Wrong answer!
Who kick the Vietcong back to Hanio?
No one, Vietcongs are welcome here, no limit, no restriction.
Why the Vietcong withdrew their troop from Cambodia in 1989?
The only Vietcong who have no restriction are the Vietcong prostitute! Is this what you are talking about?
Vietcong has to be here to protect Khmer from Khmer Rouge killers. This is no difference from the US being in Iraq right now.
You haven't answered my question! Why the Vietcong withdrew their troop from Cambodia in 1989? Why?
When the Vietcong invaded Cambodia and they injected million and million of illegal Vietcong settlers in Cambodia and also they prolong the fucken civil war for another 10 years to make Cambodia from developing since the Vietname War which is more 30 years!
Now do you see Uncle SAM did the same thing as the Vietcong and of course not!
So much for the Vietcong theory and logic!
3:13, just think at Vietcong like the US, and you'll get all your answer, alright?
Visit www.about-cambodia.blogspot.com for close look at the matter.
Hello Everybody,
My name is Mrs Sharon Sim. I live in Singapore and i am a happy woman today? and i told my self that any lender that rescue my family from our poor situation, i will refer any person that is looking for loan to him, he gave me happiness to me and my family, i was in need of a loan of S$250,000.00 to start my life all over as i am a single mother with 3 kids I met this honest and GOD fearing man loan lender that help me with a loan of S$250,000.00 SG. Dollar, he is a GOD fearing man, if you are in need of loan and you will pay back the loan please contact him tell him that is Mrs Sharon, that refer you to him. contact Dr Purva Pius,via email:(urgentloan22@gmail.com) Thank you.
BORROWERS APPLICATION DETAILS
1. Name Of Applicant in Full:……..
2. Telephone Numbers:……….
3. Address and Location:…….
4. Amount in request………..
5. Repayment Period:………..
6. Purpose Of Loan………….
7. country…………………
8. phone…………………..
9. occupation………………
10.age/sex…………………
11.Monthly Income…………..
12.Email……………..
Regards.
Managements
Email Kindly Contact: urgentloan22@gmail.com
Post a Comment