Vietnam condemns acts hindering border demarcation with Cambodia
October 31, 2009
VNA (Hanoi)
The Vietnamese Government strongly condemned acts and statements made by Sam Rainsy, President of the Sam Rainsy Party (SRP) of Cambodia, who recently uprooted land markers on the Vietnam-Cambodia border, said a Foreign Ministry spokesperson on October 30.
Sam Rainsy on October 25 visited the border demarcation area between Vietnam’s southern province of Long An and Svay Rieng province of Cambodia and uprooted six temporary poles that mark the position of Marker 185 and then brought them to Phnom Penh. Sam Rainsy also made statements slandering Vietnam as encroaching on the land of Cambodia through the border demarcation and marker planting.
In response to questions from the media about Vietnam’s reaction to Sam Rainsy’s acts and statements, spokesperson Nguyen Phuong Nga said that “ Vietnam and Cambodia are promptly conducting borderline demarcation and planting border markers. Protection of land markers and poles is the shared obligation of the two countries’ governments and people, in accordance with bilateral agreements and international law.”
What Sam Rainsy did was a perverse action, damaging common property, violating both countries’ laws, and bilateral treaties and agreements, hindering the borderline demarcating and marker planting process, she emphasised.
Sam Rainsy’s speeches slandering Vietnam were ill-informed, irresponsible and designed to incite a feud, undermining the relationship between Vietnam and Cambodia, she added.
The Vietnamese government urged the Cambodian government to take due measures to deal with sabotage acts, ensuring favourable conditions for conducting borderline demarcation and marker planting between Vietnam and Cambodia, and for the common benefit of both peoples, Nga concluded.
Sam Rainsy on October 25 visited the border demarcation area between Vietnam’s southern province of Long An and Svay Rieng province of Cambodia and uprooted six temporary poles that mark the position of Marker 185 and then brought them to Phnom Penh. Sam Rainsy also made statements slandering Vietnam as encroaching on the land of Cambodia through the border demarcation and marker planting.
In response to questions from the media about Vietnam’s reaction to Sam Rainsy’s acts and statements, spokesperson Nguyen Phuong Nga said that “ Vietnam and Cambodia are promptly conducting borderline demarcation and planting border markers. Protection of land markers and poles is the shared obligation of the two countries’ governments and people, in accordance with bilateral agreements and international law.”
What Sam Rainsy did was a perverse action, damaging common property, violating both countries’ laws, and bilateral treaties and agreements, hindering the borderline demarcating and marker planting process, she emphasised.
Sam Rainsy’s speeches slandering Vietnam were ill-informed, irresponsible and designed to incite a feud, undermining the relationship between Vietnam and Cambodia, she added.
The Vietnamese government urged the Cambodian government to take due measures to deal with sabotage acts, ensuring favourable conditions for conducting borderline demarcation and marker planting between Vietnam and Cambodia, and for the common benefit of both peoples, Nga concluded.
34 comments:
Mr Sam Rainsy may earn himself a bit of free publicity, but will his action solve the border dispute?
Kuoy Pichet
Mr Sam Rainsy should not use border demarcation issue to gain international intention, local support for his political agenda because it will embarrassing our boss friend Vietnam.
(Signed)
Hun Xen, Chea Xim, Heng Xamring
Burn these stakes! Villagers should take all these stakes out that cut across their rice field and burn them!
They never cut across ricefield of Vietnamese but they always cut across rice field of Cambodian people to get more land and make us more miserable.
Brothers and sisters, if you love your livelihood and believe in your right to food and right against hunger
I appeal you all, to burn all the stakes put in by the CPP or by Hanoi on your ricefield.
If they shoot you, let the world know that you were shot defending your family's rights to live and eat!
We have right to eat like everyone else!
I had learned in the history course in primary school that with Chey Chetha II Cambodia had lost a portion of land to Vietnam in 17th century. In 20th century under Chey Chetha III Cambodia had lost Kampuchea Krom to Vietnam. and again in the 21st century under Chey Chetha IV Cambodia continues to lose its land to this neighbour.
We cannot stop our neighbours, in the East or in the West nor in the north to covet and steal Cambodia's land, because our successive rulers, whether kings or prime ministers, continue to sell it for personal power and pride and honour to the detriment and expense of the life of Kaun Khmer. Cambodian leaders, like a family’s father in a house, since centuries keep on oppressing, beating, mistreating, selling, blood shedding, raping, grabbing, killing his very own children inside his own household to its neighbour thieves and burglars.
To stop this is to have a good loving father, a family provider, a godly father.
Khmers does not learn the lesson from God's judgment and punishment. God is using Khmer Rouge and Viet invader to do it. Khmers have to know that that punishment were from our loving God. He wants to preserve Khmers by repent from our wicked ways and life.
But we do not learn and do not repent. On the contrary they are even more wicked ever. The rulers do not heed to any repeated warnings. God uses anything to do it; Un envoy, Human Right NGO, Global witness, etc…Because of his stubbornness in the wickedness God will crush and destroy those rulers from his face to preserve Khmer nation from total destruction. God will severely punished wicked Khmers who maintain those rulers in oppressing God's people. God will raise his lowly and humble sons to do his work to preserve Khmers and bless them forever. This is His plan for his people. No wicked rulers can stop God plan.
12:19 AM,
You are a Viet's clown.
Folks we can not use the same strategy to deal with Eastern and Western borders. Each must be handled differently.
The future Khmer generation will go to international court to nullify all border agreements or demarcation signed by CPP with Vietnam, and reclaim all our land, islands lost during CPP reign.
We will have a good chance to win because CPP was originally installed by the invading/occupation forces (Vietnam) and CPP lost the UN sponsored election. These conditions are sufficient to convince the court that CPP had neither authority no legitimacy to sign those treaties with Vietnam.
Don’t fight Yuons in the battlefields, fight them at the international court of justice, because at the ICJ we are sure to win no matter how many yuon secret agents or soldiers are hiding in Cambodia soil and infiltrating in Cambodian government.
Yuons have no power on us at the international court and the justice will be on our side.
Long live to the Khmer nation!
And by the way, don't fall into yuon trap by accusing Hun Sen as traitor. Yuons forced Hun Sen to sign all those treaties. If Hun Sen refused, yuons will kill him like they did to Chan Si, or put him in jail like they did to Pen Sovann.
it is vietnamese tradition that even their emperor would sell a daughter to be the khmer whore. they still continue their tradition today. they would bring young girls to trade sex with the khmer so they can get more of cambodian land.
this message is for the khmer men," this is the 21st century you all don't need the vietnames women, they are tasteles and old style. try to have women with countries where women have full figures. they taste better than vietnamese women and you all don't have to loose anymore land to the thief vietnamese.
12:05AM if you are not a Kuoy Picheting you will find the answer for yourselve.
1:57AM I see your comment the samething on border issues with the East and the West. You have good intention for Khmer but bad approach. Don't even dependent on next generation to solve this issue. It will not happen. Honestly Khmers have to deal this issue from within. Remember old saying " Khmouch Srok oy dei, Khmouch prey vea hean". So help to use educate our Khmers to get rid puok ah Khmouch Srok and democratically build our country. See you next time.
Kouy Pichet , what make you think that what Sam Rainsy did is to solve the border dispute ? To me , I think he did it to show Viet that Khmer are not going to lay down and let Viet do whatever they want about our land along the border .
viets are creatures of habit. they have been encroaching into khmer territory since the french colonization era. Khmer people must stand up and fight the viet invasion. in 1989, the viets got defeated and had to withdraw from cambodia.
i know, hanoi needs to explain why the border markers are on khmer soil to begin with, really!
Small nation like us and having big land what do you think others would do? they would want part of it for themselves too because they have no land left to live on. Imagine 80 millions viet with a small land whereas 14 millions Khmer with big land! At the moment a number of viet families are living in the water canal. Their children have died from drowning along the way as it flooded even Chinese ot Thai wants a part of our land because their populations are increasing so tremendously and to tell you the truth there is nothing we can do about but learn to accept in increasing in our population growth as well, so that we can have enough armies to protect our country and nation alike. But gov't needs to know that no one nation wants others to be better than them. They are like scavengers waiting to grab on the down fall and would take all the benefit of it. So, we have to call for unity that everybody is important to be part of the developmet of our nation.
Bravo Sam Raingsey!!!Down with Te Ung 3 Neak.
The Vietcong government is speaking from their arse again! There is nothing new here and what about their illegal supplement border treaty act with AH HUN SEN government? The Vietcong government think that they can get away with anything they want to do including planting a few wooden sticks to annex Cambodian territory!
At the end all the illegal treaties will be revived base on international law and treaties and all the border demarcation will be verified through the use of modern technology down to the square meter!
Like they said, when the Vietcong government says something and HUN SEN government will jump!
The only good Vietcong is a dead Vietcong!
Hi Folks,
Glad to read opinions from different posters, though, those're just the opinions.
I said in one of my post that I will post my papers I wrote to share with everybody about my opinions but I decided not to.
Because I have noticed that more than 98% of KI's visitors are not rational people, they tend to enjoy bashing instead of debating or learning fro each others according to reason.
Their irrational argumements make me believe that my A+ paper shouldn't be throwing to the Chimpanzees to tear apart.
Sorry if I offend anyone.
Typo. Sorry.
I means "from each others.."
9:28am You can count on me. I am a fair person and give constructive criticism if there is a need to do so. So you should not be afraid to post your paper here.
Not only these border markers, how about the whole Kampuchea Krom (Cochinchine by the colonial French)?
Prey Nokor(Saigon), Okap(Vung Tau), Koh Tralach (Con Son Island), Koh Tral (Phu Quoc Island), and all the way to Tuk Khmao (Ca Mau).
What really belong to Viets is the Annam (or Dai Viet). Is Hanoi regime talking about demarcation of Annam???
Khmer Angkor
how the hell you came up with 98%?
i guess the only 2% left, would be your family members and you!
Mi Sompoeung Oss Sach!!!
We need to send more land protests to the UN ASAP. Sam Raisey, if you want to win the election, you need to do more of these actions. You have to win the heart and soul of the Khmer people and stand tall among the corrupted communist leaders. This also includes Hun Sen and his CPP or Viet Installed government.
Bravo Sam Rainsy!
Again, some of CPP's members and misunderstanding Khmers might have always condemned Sam Rainsy of acting like a hyper-politician. But now, I have word to balance my argument.
1. Sam Rainsy has done a correct thing for Cambodian nation. What is the measure to demarcate Cambodian border correctly? By GIS or by people who have lived in those actual lands years and years. We all know that respectful bilateral treaty has never existed between Vietnam and Hun Sen government. Children can also understand this common relationship. China might back Cambodia to face with Vietnam, but surely Hun Sen leadership will not do that because of huge gratitude that Hun Sen has to pay back to Vietnam. Otherwise, the Cambodian land which was claimed by those local farmers are truly belonging to them (Cambodians). The demarcation and border poles are just the treaty of "kill without bleeding". Those Cambodian farmers are the primary witness of Vietnam who has always encroached Cambodia land. But through the supplemental border treaty, Vietnam can demarcate (encroach) deep into our Cambodian land legally. Importantly, this Vietnamese news has well utilized its primary purpose to condemn Sam Rainsy. Very good, we are looking to hearing the feedback from our government.
Interestingly, the theme and style of this news is the same as the news/statement of Hun Sen government.
2. This is a very good time for all Cambodians to ensure that the protection of Cambodian border with Thailand is very important as well as the protection of border with Vietnam is also very important. These two countries have gradually encroached Cambodia land until we are left in a small size like a "leave of bodhi tree" nowadays.
Every Cambodian and government officials have to appreciate with Sam Rainsy who has made this debate happen in order to tell Vietnam that their gradual violation through the border demarcation is not silent any more.
Let all Cambodians shoulder together for our territorial land.
KY
9:28 AM
It's a nice philosophy you got up there , but if you really have things to say about the border dispuet , the corruption , the government or anything at all , show us what you got and then we will go from there . If you want to debate it live, go to paltalk.com register and search for khmer you will see alot of khmer there want to debate with you.
Will see what Hun Sen's government is going to do about this case. Will they take the request from their boss (Veit) and punish Sam Rainsy and his supporters for pulling those borders posts or will they let the border committee work it out ? It will be very interesting .
9:28 AM ! Don't be such an A**** . If you have anything to say , say it . People have their own oppinion and you have yours . Not everyone is going to agree with what you say and not everyone is going to agree with what I say either ... that's why we debate .
9:28 AM , you don't want to share your oppinion with other posters because you are afraid of them not agreeing with you .. poor guy . Take my advice 9:28 AM , don't open your fucken mouth if you don't want to say it .. got it ?
hey 9:28 AM, wanna kiss my ass?
Hey 9:28, who invites you here, dude. If you think you above everyone else, go and live on the moon, or may be in an undergroud cave by yourself.
Bravo, Rainsy. Please go on ur action. Do not listen to the mother fucker stupid government. You do good for the people. We are with you...
Khmer in USA
ka teeuy (noodle)
Here's a story about (Yuon) mother and daughter came to Laos selling noodle. One morning bak hum noy (little weinie) came passed by hmmmmm I want that ka teeuy yummy. I wanted that ka teeuy please, said the boy. What's ka teeuy? said the woman. Oh! Do mean Pho the woman replied. After he had ate that ka teeuy, he went to tell the whole village its called pho. Today Laotian called ka teeuy (pho) I have no idea, that's only word were given by Yuon.
Khmer = ka teeuy
Thai = ka teeuy
Laotian = pho? unacceptable word.
They swallowing Laos today folks...
SRP if cpp party on youn side take it to international court or France make france responsibility for kampuchea krom it khmer land ask frand to give this land back to combodai france have no right to cut khmer land to youn because france is not khmer and france does not know where exactly khmer land at. so take this issue to national court.and do not forget take the whole villager to the court too they are the evidence of khmer land.
to Kuoy Pichet solve or not solve the khmer land dispute but this issue had heard to the world so the next pm could have a chance to take the land back if the pm after hun sen really love khmer as khmer. then this issue could help him or her to kill youn and get khmer land back keep continue to fight with viet to get khmer land back.kill the villager who is the secrete work for Hun sen and if people really love each other as khmer they should kill the top office on cpp party easilly.any one who is strange get in to khmer land i think the villager should keep their eyes on that person if they do something secret from the villager or they report thing to Hun sen kill them secretly.
Hi Mi Sompoeung Oss Sach 10:30 AM,
Noce trademark signature you have.
That guy may be right from reading your reply. So you are one of the 98% Chimpanzees and you are at the bottom of of all the Chimpanzees.
If the guy said only 2% is rational may be only 280000 people can think from their heads not from their ass.
Tevabot muk sa'at
The Royal government of Cambodia must seek UN intervention regarding illegal border posts moved inside Cambodia by Vietnam. Our Khmer farmers and peasants along border can report to provincial authorities regarding any irregularities. We need modern tech to verify the boundary markers according to existing UN maps.
We lost Kampuchea Krom by King Chey Chetta II because of a "Vietnamese pussy."
Now we lose more land because Hun Sen is a "Vietnamese puppet." Undeniably, the Viets helped him gained power and wealth (through plundering Cambodia's natural resources and extreme corruption.)
If the CPP is truly a Khmer nationalist party, then it should not be silence regarding Vietnamese illegal encroachment into Khmer land and sue Sam Rainsy.
If Hun Sen wants to be a national Hero like King-Father Sihanouk, he must take Vietnam to the international court of justice regarding Koh Tral and the illegal treaties coerced by Vietnam into signing in 1985. If not, he and his family should emigrate to Hanoi for good.
Hun Sen gets a (D-) for mishandling the Preah Vihear case. Prolonging bilateral negotiations is a waste of time. This should have been in UN security council for discussion.
The Cambodian people deserve to have a leader that cares about their concerns, protect their land, provide freedom, security and justice. At the same time, safeguard national interests above personal and foreign interests.
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